ThePog Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 The X1/9s have a factory 5 or 6mm spacer, I know chaps who have been pulled up in it and have had to prove they were factory... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RXFORD Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 6 hours ago, shizzl said: The ps column I have in my shop has a uj that requires a round shaft with a machine flat section on it. how legit is it to machine a factory steering shaft to slide into that? no welding required. Is it a 'double D' type or just a flat section where the spline is for a pinch bolt to lock against? If its just a small flat section for pinch bolt it should be be fine as long as its machined in nicely and its not over done so the bolts sloppy or done with an angle grinder. Some have a radiused recess for the bolt instead of a flat. I have had PG Hydraulics's shorten/remake & respline shafts over the years with no cert issue. Is it an electric column? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 2 hours ago, RXFORD said: Is it a 'double D' type or just a flat section where the spline is for a pinch bolt to lock against? If its just a small flat section for pinch bolt it should be be fine as long as its machined in nicely and its not over done so the bolts sloppy or done with an angle grinder. Some have a radiused recess for the bolt instead of a flat. I have had PG Hydraulics's shorten/remake & respline shafts over the years with no cert issue. Is it an electric column? Yeah it’s just flat, the bolt slides in hard against that. GM unit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FraserNZ Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 19 hours ago, FraserNZ said: I am looking at purchasing a vehicle that has had an after market electric power steering unit added to it that has not be certified. I assumed that was a modification which would require cert but I can't see a specific section in the Certification Thresholds that would be triggered by this change. Appreciate if anyone can point to LVVTA documentation that clarifies the situation. Note that the original car would not have had any power assistance. To add further challenge for me the car is out of town (like the other end of the country) so inspection is no easy. 18 hours ago, cletus said: If it's not in the threshold= needs cert. The modification threshold only lists the stuff that can be done without a cert. Adding electric ps definitely needs cert, and they can be problematic as it adds load to parts that didn't have much load on them previously, plus the kits you can buy generally don't comply with lvv requirements due to welded shafts etc OK, so there is no doubt it needs certification and to my knowledge there is no plate or tag on the car so I assume it doesn't have certification. It now transpires that the EPS unit was fitted in Australia before the car was imported and registered in NZ. I have no idea how that process works but would that imply that the EPS unit has been checked and deemed to comply otherwise it would not have been able to be registered? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrx7 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 ^ Is it an old car? When was it imported / registered in NZ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTorque Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 What kind of car? Chances are the guy doing the entry certification didn’t know what he was looking at. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FraserNZ Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 31 minutes ago, AllTorque said: What kind of car? Chances are the guy doing the entry certification didn’t know what he was looking at. 1970 Volvo P1800 that according to CarJam was first registered in NZ late 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Needs a plate that says ST1 then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 yep it probably got missed at compliance and should have been certified. its not uncommon for things like that to get overlooked if its not obvious- ie if thats the only mod, and it drives normally, and its not painted bright yellow with XTREME VOLVO PERFORMANC KUSTOMZ or something written on it, and the inspector did a less than thorough inspection of the column area then it would be easy to miss, especially if theres a cover over the column or the unit is hidden up behind the dash 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FraserNZ Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 35 minutes ago, igor said: Needs a plate that says ST1 then. @igor what does ST1 mean/identify and what sort of 'plate' would that be on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Numberplate. Simon Templar, aka The Saint, drove a P1800. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FraserNZ Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 13 minutes ago, igor said: Numberplate. Simon Templar, aka The Saint, drove a P1800. Duh! Sorry, a bit slow this end.... It's actually my wife that has always wanted one from watch re-runs of The Saint as a kid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHarry Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 9 hours ago, FraserNZ said: 1970 Volvo P1800 that according to CarJam was first registered in NZ late 2018. A white lhd one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FraserNZ Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, JustHarry said: A white lhd one? No green rhd ex Aussie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truenotch Posted Friday at 05:21 Share Posted Friday at 05:21 I have a silly question for @cletus or any WOF inspectors out there. Lots of factory option Bilstein suspension is "circlip" style with an aluminium spring perch like this: I have a set of adjustable coilovers like this: Hypothetically, if I spun the thread off and turned these into "non adjustable" circlip style perches, would I be able to get a WOF without a cert (provided it looked factory). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ul9601 Posted Friday at 06:06 Share Posted Friday at 06:06 curious myself. a while back i had a few more grooves added to bilsteins (it might have been too low or not low enough) and had wof no problem but i dont know it was whether the inspectors were slack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted Friday at 08:18 Share Posted Friday at 08:18 2 hours ago, Truenotch said: I have a silly question for @cletus or any WOF inspectors out there. Lots of factory option Bilstein suspension is "circlip" style with an aluminium spring perch like this: I have a set of adjustable coilovers like this: Hypothetically, if I spun the thread off and turned these into "non adjustable" circlip style perches, would I be able to get a WOF without a cert (provided it looked factory). Technically no In the threshold it mentions that spring seats must be oem unmodified The circlip adjustable bilsteins have always required cert, unless they were factory fitted in that specific vehicle when manufactured However they are often one of those things that gets wofs without cert, usually because the wof guy doesn't notice or read the rules properly A guy I know had some in a falcon and that got wofs because the circlip fell down into the lowest position so the other slots were not visible any more A person could be a criminal and remove the adjustableness and paint them black or something and try their luck I guess but that would be illegal technically so I would never suggest that you might get away with that I have heard stories of other criminals that just swap suspension once a year to get wofs and they say that's pretty easy to do and then they don't have to damage their bilsteins 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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