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On 05/12/2019 at 21:09, ajg193 said:

Can you take it for a cert with no plate on it? That way they would just record the VIN number?

 

/I really don't know and can't contribute in this case but I am interested in the answer

Yep, my FD still isn't registered on NZ roads (has a VIN though) and is, touch wood, about to be certed.

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That's how my FD was before I bought it too, VIN and certified when it came in, I believe but then only registered when I bought it.  First registered NZ owner. 

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Failed wof on brakes, had them fixed, meantime windscreen cracks (probably in field of view if you're picky), can I re-test and get wof or will i need to get screen first?

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Have just taken the Chevron/Lotus 7 for its first wof in ~15 years and although it went through nicely and nothing of note was picked up. they did pick up the four point harnesses and want to query land transport on monday. 

does anyone here know/have experience/know where to look in the virm for this situation? car was built in 88 and to my knowledge never had anything except a 4 point harness fitted. 

i have emailed Chevron engineering and apparently Evan is a friendly guy so i expect a response from him, but threres every chance hes gone on holidays and who knows when that response may be. 

have also messages the guy i bought it from to see if he has any historical pics but im pretty sure hes given me everything hes got. 

options seem to be;

1 Land transport say its ok and i get my wof. 

2 Land transport say it needs an authority card. - not a major i guess, but does this mean only people with a MSNZ licence can drive it on the road? be a bit of a buzzkill if i cant share the fun. 

3 I fit lap and diagonal belts for road use - happy to do this but dont want to stray into cert territory. 

4 ????? *your option here?*

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No idea on the law & there seems to be a bit of interpretation involved as well.  My first Fraser has 4 point harnesses with standard buckles & the current one has one of those for the pax & a 5 point with turnbuckle for the driver. I have never been questioned with either. That said I go to a specialist workshop not the local VTNZ. Good luck 

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I've gone to the same place for years, some good old boys who arnt idiots. 

You're not gonna pass any dodgy shit there but they arnt going to fail you for just having an old car. 

Hard to say how this will play out 

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Back in the early '90s (pre cert days?) a guy I knew had racing harnesses in his T Bucket. Every wof he was questioned about them. Think he ended up carrying the relevant paperwork in the car all the time just in case. 

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The way I read it, if Chevron is the manufacturer and that is the style of belts it had fitted originally, it meets note 18 (a) on the page @AllTorque linked 

So if you can get something from them proving thats what they had for belts originally, it should be sweet

I assume it has no cert plate?

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thats exactly what i was looking for and was semi certain existed. Cheers Clint!

hopefully i can get some form of confirmation that these belts are all it ever had, perhaps they will even simply accept it. 

Edit cheers @AllTorque too since you actually posted the answer and I missed it! 

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No cert plate either, or declaration papers, the way I understand it and the way the wof man did too is that's its not a modified vehicle. So would only have been complied by what ever means that was in the late 80s 

It does have a stamped serial number on a chevron branded plate and a land transport 7Axxxx... Vin number on another chevron branded plate. 

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Just need that proof that they were factory fitted and should be good to go, yes? Are there original sales brochures that would say it had a harness?

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It was produced as a commercial kit, but home built. 

Proving it was always a 4 point may be tricky, but not impossible. I'll swing past tomorrow morning and see what he thinks of the above posted rule, I'll also see if I can get ahold of some photos of my car back in the day. 

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I have a query about modifying pressed steel lower control arms. They are OEM 2mm pressed steel. Problem I have is clearance off the brakes from the folded up edge of arm. In order to make this fit, is it allowable to have the fold trimmed off and reweld the arm? Thinking 5mm plate cut to fit over the ball joint sleeve, and have the plate tig welded to the sleeve and around all edges. The part removed does nothing except stop the ball joint being pulled out of the end. So I figured if there is a 5mmx5mm ring around the ball joint sleeve that should be strong enough to do that job. Would have a NDT report done. Thanks

 

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I think if the plate was welded to the inside of the side parts, that would be fine

You would need to confirm with the certifier who is going to sign off on it that he (or she, lol) is happy with it, as it's not a recipe in the book 

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