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On ‎29‎/‎05‎/‎2019 at 19:27, ESKIN8R said:

@cletusHey mate, any reason these would run into issues when certing a car for an engine conversion?

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cant see a problem with those, looks like a much better idea than the factory ones

 

@Nominal they are escort top strut hats, the factory ones don't have a bearing to let the shock turn freely

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On ‎23‎/‎05‎/‎2019 at 13:34, ~Slideways~ said:

Hi Cletus,

- Can you tell me if it is possible to cert a half cage (or if its even part of a cert) with side intrusion bars? It would follow the design of being out of the way of the driver and passenger head.

- on that, what is the definition of 'head restraints' when it comes to a half cage?

 

The half cage would be welded in, unsure whether the side intrusion would be bolt in or weld in. I prefer weld in but it depends if its even possible.

The reason I ask is because I want to add safety and stiffness to a late 60's kei car design but I don't want to have to have an authority card and log book for a 2nd car (I am planning a full cage in another project).

 

Thanks again.

 

 

 

 

 

yep a half cage is certifiable

cage requirements from an interior impact point of view, is here

https://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/standards/LVVTA_STD_Interior_Impact.pdf

 

head restraints

https://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/standards/LVVTA_STD_Head_Restraints.pdf

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On ‎23‎/‎05‎/‎2019 at 06:34, Ashkellybarr said:

Hey Cletus

just wondering, if a car has had a section of the floor replaced and this needs a repair cert.

how would one find the repair cert paperwork?

ive done a car jam report and it doesn’t say anything, nor is there any other paperwork to go with the car

do these get logged on a system of any sort?

 

thanks

ash

do you mean it needs a repair cert and you want to know how to repair it to that standard?

or it has had one done and you need a copy of the repair cert?

 

I don't know how you would get a copy of it, you might be able to get the repair certifier to make copies for you? its not usually something that the customer gets a copy of, the cert paperwork gets given to the vtnz/vtnz inspector

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25 minutes ago, cletus said:

cant see a problem with those, looks like a much better idea than the factory ones

 

@Nominal they are escort top strut hats, the factory ones don't have a bearing to let the shock turn freely

Thanks - I was trying to work out how they would relate to an engine conversion :)

 

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3 hours ago, cletus said:

do you mean it needs a repair cert and you want to know how to repair it to that standard?

or it has had one done and you need a copy of the repair cert?

 

I don't know how you would get a copy of it, you might be able to get the repair certifier to make copies for you? its not usually something that the customer gets a copy of, the cert paperwork gets given to the vtnz/vtnz inspector

Cheers for the reply

the repairs been done and I’m told it was signed off by a certifier.

however car doesn’t come with any paperwork to back it up, nor can VTNZ or carjam can confirm anything about.

Car has since been modified and will require cert for the mods so I’m asking as I don’t want it to be an issue should it go for cert

 

thanks again

ash

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5 hours ago, Ashkellybarr said:

Cheers for the reply

the repairs been done and I’m told it was signed off by a certifier.

however car doesn’t come with any paperwork to back it up, nor can VTNZ or carjam can confirm anything about.

Car has since been modified and will require cert for the mods so I’m asking as I don’t want it to be an issue should it go for cert

 

thanks again

ash

I understand that it would be recorded on LANDATA that the car has been flagged and un-flagged. According to the link below the paperwork has to be kept for two years.

https://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/light-vehicle-repair/introduction/inspection-and-certification-process

I don't know how you can access the records though, maybe talk to NZTA?

 

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7 hours ago, Ashkellybarr said:

Cheers for the reply

the repairs been done and I’m told it was signed off by a certifier.

however car doesn’t come with any paperwork to back it up, nor can VTNZ or carjam can confirm anything about.

Car has since been modified and will require cert for the mods so I’m asking as I don’t want it to be an issue should it go for cert

 

thanks again

ash

Shouldn't matter for lvv cert - it's not usually a requirement for a lvv certifier to sight the repair cert 

On rare occasions the certifier might want to see it- the only time I remember asking someone for a copy of a repair cert was an old car with a lot of repairs, where the owner had a repair cert done, then did mods and it turned into a scratch built vehicle,  when that happens it is considered a new vehicle and the lvv certifier takes responsibility for the whole vehicle including the body structure 

So in that case it was me covering my ass as well as I could because I hadn't seen the body before paint 

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are there any requirements for aftermarket wheel hubs?

i can get these

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machined cast hubs which would mean i dont have to mess about with bearing adaptors and plugging and redrilling the PCD of some old ones

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On 31/05/2019 at 11:17, tortron said:

are there any requirements for aftermarket wheel hubs?

i can get these

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machined cast hubs which would mean i dont have to mess about with bearing adaptors and plugging and redrilling the PCD of some old ones

Yeah that should be fine if they are made properly of a suitable material

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So for my engine mounts and gearbox mounting plates...

Do I stitch weld them, or fully weld along all the edges?

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I think I've asked this before,

but who whom.do I write to get a fuck up in the. Motor registry corrected? 

The papers for one of  my datto states that the chassis number is j15xxxxxxxx

and the engine number is j15 [same as above]

the body tag obviously has the correct chassis number on it.  And sooner or later it will be prudent to get it rectifiedin the system.

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11 hours ago, RUNAMUCK said:

I think I've asked this before,

but who whom.do I write to get a fuck up in the. Motor registry corrected? 

The papers for one of  my datto states that the chassis number is j15xxxxxxxx

and the engine number is j15 [same as above]

the body tag obviously has the correct chassis number on it.  And sooner or later it will be prudent to get it rectifiedin the system.

I had an error between chassis number in the system and actual chassis number, something like a 1 and 7 mix up, man at the testing station was being a dick about it, but his boss took the papers, walked into the office and came back job done.

I have no idea what the actual process is other than it is possible.

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1 hour ago, NickJ said:

I had an error between chassis number in the system and actual chassis number, something like a 1 and 7 mix up, man at the testing station was being a dick about it, but his boss took the papers, walked into the office and came back job done.

I have no idea what the actual process is other than it is possible.

Same here. Cert plate and chassis plate matched, but number in system was wrong. Obviously a transcription error. I'd noticed it at one point, then forgot about it for ages. VTNZ guy also noticed and said it had to be fixed. He sorted it out. I think he took some photos and filled out a form for me. I don't think it cost anything. 

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I emailed nzta when my impala was listed at 6 cylinder engine size, but was a V8. I took a photo of the chassis tag which had a "x" in it, which denotes factory V8 in Chevrolet's chassis code, as well as the details on how to decode the chassis numbers and they emailed back saying all done! Easy as that.

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Sometimes it's a piece of cake to get details changed

Other times it can be a major , I've got someone who I certed a car for, it had one extra letter in the chassis tag that wasn't on landata 

When he tried to get it changed it turned into a big drama as someone had removed the tag at some point to paint the engine bay and it turned into a big 'is this the right car for the tag' problem

It's been ongoing for nearly a year now  

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I shouldnt have that issue. 
no way the engine number and the chassis number should be the same. Id say some fucktard wof guy has looked at the tag not hard enough, and entered the engine number, instead of the chassis number.

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Years ago when I took the MS65 through VTNZ they said the chassis numbers didn't match, so I went to Toyota and they had a look and go "meh?" And wrote me a note stating a mixup at the factory (NZ new) and VTNZ were all happy.

Had a look at the numbers myself a bit later and couldn't find any discrepancy, everything matched fine. Stuffed if I know what they were on about, but now I have a handy note if I ever wanna swap chassis / tags.

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What is acceptable to make a brake caliper out of? 

Does it have to be mild steel? Or can I use aluminium? I already have some aluminium bar stock that might do....

I made a scribble of what it might look like.

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The thin section will be as thick as the original Triumph caliper lugs. At least 12.5mm I suspect.

Can I weld it? IE: make a flat one with spacers welded to it.

Hub and caliper look like this.

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