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Probably keep on going until the clutch eventually gives up! Which is most likely scenario as this is still on the original one.

C series box is same-ish as used in the 2ZZ Celicas, 20V cars and so on. 

A 5000rpm launch is still not that much power in the scheme of things haha. 

Fingers crossed...

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I think the Echo C series is a bit different to the C52/C56 etc that's found in AW11s, AE82/92/101/111. Should still be plenty strong, but I think the final drive and diff are different to the others (which means you can't transplant an LSD from a C52/6). 

Still, Murray's supercharged 1NZ has never had an issue with the gearbox, so you'll be sweet. 

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59 minutes ago, AllTorque said:

When I was at Toyota we fit a TRD LSD to a turbo Vitz. Same part as an Altezza.

I had to look because I doubt the vitz has a 7.5" crown wheel like the Altezza? Interestingly the vitz LSD number matches the ones listed for AW11, AE92 etc

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It would be incredibly convenient if true! 
As I've got a few F series LSDs kicking around haha.
I guess the OD of the crownwheel doesnt necessarily have to be the same in order for the bolts on the diff to be compatible.
But seems unlikely / I think I've heard of other people swapping normal C series LSD in.

I found someone that swapped the 1NZFXE 13:1 1500cc prius motor into an AW11, then put the normal 1NZ cams in it. 
But then they used the shit house factory intake manifold with the tiny throttle and a standard Echo ECU.
Lame on both counts.

Made 109-110hp atw by 5700rpm but then factory rev limiter cuts the fun short.
So maybe some potential there with better intake and more revs.
They're $500 engines so would almost be rude not to at some point...

But it's amazing this works at all on a completely wrong ECU haha. Probably why its got such a wonky powerband. knock control is probably having a hernia.

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1 hour ago, Roman said:

It would be incredibly convenient if true! 
As I've got a few F series LSDs kicking around haha.
I guess the OD of the crownwheel doesnt necessarily have to be the same in order for the bolts on the diff to be compatible.
But seems unlikely / I think I've heard of other people swapping normal C series LSD in.
 

Yeah but the bolt patterns from memory are different like 10 bolts vs 6 bolts. Also FWD nuggets are wayyyyy shorter than RWD LSD's. Going on the TRD part numbers about 100 other C-series cars/models crosses over with the vitz part number so pretty good bet a C-series LSD works

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1 hour ago, sheepers said:

wat.

 

got any 3.7/3.9 CW&P you dont want?

dont need the whole LSD, it would be nice, but at this point im just trying to find a lower F series ratio. 

Nah man theyre hard to find. Took years to find a 3.7 and we had to buy a whole car to get it.

Not sure if you can buy them new somehow.

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Off topic and @sheepers probably knows this but yeah looks like they are $1100->$1200 new

from old toymods post (would have to verify this yourself)

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then on amayama 3.7 ratio is ~$1100. Part number crosses over with hilux which is what people always say but never seen anyone find one IRL and swap it.

https://www.amayama.com/en/part/toyota/4120129298

3.5 ratio slightly cheaper

https://www.amayama.com/en/part/toyota/4120139467

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