tortron 63,983 Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Paint thread But I use evercoat liteweight filler over a coat of sealer I seal the bare metal with durepox -epoxy urethane primer Then I have a couple different carmaster primers/primer fillers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RUNAMUCK 29,017 Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Bog is very hygroscopic. It pulls moisture from the air. Where its laid over bare steel, the paint eventually gets a chip/scratch in it, which allows moisture into the bog. The moisture lies against 5he steel, which enables corrosion. As steel rusts it spawls/swells. This forces the bog away from the metal surface. The filler splits, and more water gets in. Nutech is somehow different, and doesnt absorb moisture. But I'd just epoxy it before adding filler. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tortron 63,983 Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 so does primer. the ones i use say top coat within 72 hours Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kws 4,487 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Thanks for the recommendations. Sorry, forgot there was a paint thread. Have been to the paint suppliers and grabbed some paint, clearcoat and filler. I suspect the previous repair was done over bare metal and moisture got under the bog as the metal was very pitted. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kws 4,487 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Anyone know a good off the shelf alloy wheel cleaner? We had a really good commercial wheel acid at a previous job which took brake dust off easy as, but dont have access to that anymore. Wheels have baked on dust, and are standard factory alloys, no polished lip etc. Tried the CRC foaming stuff, didnt touch it so want something stronger without spending hours scrubbing them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Transom 5,718 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Meguiars wheel cleaner seems to remove brake dust well turns purple then washes off - won’t remove pitted into alloy stuff Is there one called dragons breath or something similar ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigfoot 1,292 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, kws said: Anyone know a good off the shelf alloy wheel cleaner? We had a really good commercial wheel acid at a previous job which took brake dust off easy as, but dont have access to that anymore. Wheels have baked on dust, and are standard factory alloys, no polished lip etc. Tried the CRC foaming stuff, didnt touch it so want something stronger without spending hours scrubbing them. Wheel muck plus. Flouro green stuff in a spray bottle, I get mine from repco 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muncie 10,644 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 No fume oven cleaner works well doesn't fuck paint removes brake dust piece of piss. Dont use on bare alloy though it dulls it. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Transom 5,718 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 ^ don’t use oven cleaner on anodising it’s removes it Keen to try it on brake dust now 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bling 21,053 Posted December 9, 2020 Report Share Posted December 9, 2020 Too potent and things start to eat the alloy don't they? Grease your elbows and get in there with some less potent stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tortron 63,983 Posted December 9, 2020 Report Share Posted December 9, 2020 18 hours ago, Transom said: ^ don’t use oven cleaner on anodising it’s removes it Keen to try it on brake dust now The no fume one is no good for removing anodising - always get the toxic version 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Transom 5,718 Posted December 9, 2020 Report Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, tortron said: The no fume one is no good for removing anodising - always get the toxic version Yup the “Bam” super toxic stuff is great for de anodising 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tortron 63,983 Posted December 9, 2020 Report Share Posted December 9, 2020 The no fume ones are decent for cleaning engine bays. Id say its ok for painted wheels Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kicker 18,899 Posted December 9, 2020 Report Share Posted December 9, 2020 I used CRC Mag Monster the other day, my silver wheels were black with 2 years of brake dust. A quick spray and agitation with a brush and they hosed off nice and shiney, will trade again but more frequently this time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kws 4,487 Posted December 9, 2020 Report Share Posted December 9, 2020 Sounds like its between Mag Monster and Wheelmuck. Have tried dragons breath before and didnt really think much of it for brake dust, but that was baked on stuff. Probably works well on normal on-the-surface brake dust. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nzed 1,693 Posted December 9, 2020 Report Share Posted December 9, 2020 Wheel muck is AWESOME. Buy a bottle. Ive bene through fricken litres of it now and not had a wheel not cleaned from it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adoom 2,500 Posted December 9, 2020 Report Share Posted December 9, 2020 So I have a DC tig welding issue. I'm still new to tig. I'm trying to weld some mild steel exhaust tube, so it's 1.6mm thick. The arc is not shooting straight out the end of the electrode, it's pissing off at an angle, about 45 degrees. If I get it REALLY close to the puddle, it looks like it's straight, but really, it's still at an angle. I'm using 30-35 amps. I've made sure I have a good connection with the ground clamp. I've cleaned the work with acetone. I've tried striking an arc on a thick steel plate and turning up the amps to 170. But it's still doing it. I assumed it was the grind on the electrode. I tried regrinding it by hand. I tried turning it in the drill while grinding it on the bench grinder. I've tried a really sharp point and a not so sharp point. I've tried a different electrode. I've tried a shorter stick out. It all seems to make no difference. WTF else should I try? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cletus 39,133 Posted December 9, 2020 Report Share Posted December 9, 2020 26 minutes ago, Adoom said: So I have a DC tig welding issue. I'm still new to tig. I'm trying to weld some mild steel exhaust tube, so it's 1.6mm thick. The arc is not shooting straight out the end of the electrode, it's pissing off at an angle, about 45 degrees. If I get it REALLY close to the puddle, it looks like it's straight, but really, it's still at an angle. I'm using 30-35 amps. I've made sure I have a good connection with the ground clamp. I've cleaned the work with acetone. I've tried striking an arc on a thick steel plate and turning up the amps to 170. But it's still doing it. I assumed it was the grind on the electrode. I tried regrinding it by hand. I tried turning it in the drill while grinding it on the bench grinder. I've tried a really sharp point and a not so sharp point. I've tried a different electrode. I've tried a shorter stick out. It all seems to make no difference. WTF else should I try? Polarity is correct? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Adoom 2,500 Posted December 9, 2020 Report Share Posted December 9, 2020 11 hours ago, cletus said: Polarity is correct? Yes, positive ground. 10 hours ago, kws said: I have ground them like the top picture, but I have a point, not a flat. I have come across conflicting information whether there should be a point or a flat end at low currents. I will try it with a flat tip today. Hopefully that's it,. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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