danger Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yeah JP sighted and letter from cops saying they have no interest in the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I didn't need a letter from the cops when I did it, but I guess it depends on what womble you get. Also the registrar at the court house can sight it for you if that is closer, you need the correct form from VTNZ though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 They probably thought you were a cop with that lip slug. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yetchh Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I didn't need a letter from the cops when I did it, but I guess it depends on what womble you get. Also the registrar at the court house can sight it for you if that is closer, you need the correct form from VTNZ though. Ok bro thanks, mates a jp so I just get him to witness shit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locost_bryan Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Sorry, guys, posted this in the other rego thread... I bought my Coupe as an unfinished project. It has had rust removed (sills and around windscreen) - I have photos (off TradeMe) of the work being done (looks like a panel beater's workshop), but no record of who did it. Will that cause problems with the VIN/cert process? Do I need to track down the guy who had the work done (two owners ago)? It also came with two sets of plates - the original dead plates, and a live set from another Coupe (same size engine). I'd prefer to put it back on the road with the original plates that match the engine and chassis numbers. Do I just need to ring the nice lady (Tania?) at LTSA and fill in the form, attach photos of plates, and show the receipt from the previous owner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranter Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Just take it in as is then worry about possible problems, if rust has been repaired properly there will be no further dramas, it is only when it has failed for rust that you might need to prove correct repair was undertaken. The plate question I'm unsure of the procedure, just make them aware that you want to keep its original plates and go from there, from memory they issue new plates and then you swap them back to original plates later. Deregister your live but incorrect plates as fitting them would be illegal (I assume fraud even if you owned both cars). If you were to use them then a WOF from the local garage would suffice. (don't do this) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepers Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 in order to keep your black plates you will need to sort it out with Tina before you re-register your car. you cant do it after. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yetchh Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 what did you guys write on on your stat dec, I do solemnly and sincerely declare that: I am the sole and legal owner of this vehicle chassis CD2VCXXXXX make/year/model etc etc? or something along those lines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 There is a form they give you and you just fill it out, and then sign it in front of a registrar et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yetchh Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Yeah the vtnz guy said I could download it but I'm fucked if I can find it, can only find a stat dec on gender change on your licence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 what did you guys write on on your stat dec, I do solemnly and sincerely declare that: I am the sole and legal owner of this vehicle chassis CD2VCXXXXX make/year/model etc etc? or something along those lines? a signed statutory declaration. Note that there is no set format, but a statutory declaration must include the following statements:1. ‘Solemnly and sincerely declare/affirm that’, and 2. ‘I make this solemn declaration conscientiously declaring the same to be true and by virtue of the Oaths and Declarations Act 1957’. I have one at home, I'll have a look later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangbug Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Since I'll be going through this as well in the coming soonness I'll do a "how to" with a bit of luck.The best so far has been from gldfshbob I reckon.I'll even do some pictures, actually..... I'll do it in my build thread, I'll link to it once I'm done. From reading this forum I think I'll be fixing her up as is, re-registering THEN getting my rod on.... or something that doesn't sound gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yetchh Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 a signed statutory declaration. Note that there is no set format, but a statutory declaration must include the following statements:1. ‘Solemnly and sincerely declare/affirm that’, and 2. ‘I make this solemn declaration conscientiously declaring the same to be true and by virtue of the Oaths and Declarations Act 1957’. I have one at home, I'll have a look later It's all good bro, they emailed me a vtnz one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake. Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 This has probably been asked before but if you have a car certified for mods and the rego dies, when you get it re registered do you have to get cert done again or what's the story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flauski Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 History - two points of note *Just to highlight how hopeless LTA used to be, an identical bike I have to the one mentioned below (which I still have original paper registration papers for) has the frame and engine recorded as starting L52 instead of LS2. They made hundreds and thousands of mistakes recording vehicle data. Eg LS2-000001 may be recorded as L52-000001 or LS2000001 or LS20-00001, exponential room for f**k ups when they relied on people who generally had no real idea what chassis/engine numbers should be for particular models. A Datsun 240K I had was registered as a Datsun 2405....... *During transition from one computer system to another in 1994ish, someone at LTA inadvertently deleted thousands of old records. Their problem right? guess again. Re-registering a vehicle that has black plates but no longer 'exists' on the LTA system. Long story short, if you can't prove it has been on the road before (does not exist on seach of LTA database) then as of 2013, then your only slim chance is to; - pay $184 per hour (no where does it actually say this is a one off) - fill out an 'alternative documents' form. Still requires you to 'prove' it was on the road in NZ or elsewhere worldwide, dereg cert etc. Requires an entry certifier to validate the frame/chassis number is legitimate/ proof you own (stat declaration etc) This alternative documents application is no guarantee either, still requires you to try to convince them it was on the road before and ultimately rests on your hard work researching, etc and the decision of one person. What really bugs me is because they deleted their own records, you potentially could have to pay almost the same hourly rate as a QC defence lawyer defending a murder charge for LTA to decide whether your vehicle can be reregistered or not?! This $184.00 an hour charge only started in 2013. Backwards logic? I am keen as to escalate this issue along with another. Who actually knows what 'proof' means with LTA when it comes to reregistration/old black plate use/alternative documents (which according to fact sheets for all three processes say the same thing - proof it has been on the road in NZ previously) but that is another story..... Fast forward; my story I have an old Yamaha LS2 2 smoke that is being re-registered. It has a frame number/engine number and original black plate still attached. No ' proof' it was ever on the road before but it has an old WOF sticker on the plate from 1980. LTA has no record of any of the frame/engine/plate numbers at all on their system. Several phone calls to LTA and VTNZ later, with the help of a helpful guy at VTNZ , with several searches of every combo he could think of - nothing, nada, no record anywhere. Great, $184 decision is on the cards I was thinking...... 3 different people I told that I had an old WOF label on the plate (2x LTA, 1 x VTNZ inspection compliance certifier), 3 people told me not good enough for proof. Then I spoke with a LTA supervisor (after a complaint was made about someone from LTA) I won't say who the complaint was about but lets just say its good that they record all phone calls and the person makes significant decisions regarding the reregistrstration of vehicles. At the end of the day, all it took was to speak with someone at LTA who was a 'product specialist' and knew what the f they were talking about. An old WOF sticker IS proof the vehicle was on the road in NZ and therefore qualifies for reregistration and potentially the use of the old black plate (still waiting for a decision on that even though both processes need the same level of proof - go figure) Summary If you want to reregister a vehicle that has fallen of the LTA system (registration lapsed prior to 1994) you either need some other 'proof' it was on the road previously or hope like hell you find enough out about it so as to convince someone it has been. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Good to know man. I'm lucky with the S21 as I got all kinds of "proof" including the WoF and registration stickers, original ownership papers, 80's NZ Post Office registration forms, etc. and a proof of sale letter from the PO I bought it off whose name is on the Post Office and original ownership papers. Obviously the concern from their end in regards to motorcycle plates is that that plate despite having a WoF sticker, because it's attached to the plate then it could have come off the back of any bike not just your one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flauski Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I hear ya and I can understand that. But my point is, had they not told me this, my only option was to go the alternative documents route - I pay them $184, provide exactly the same information for them to make a decision. Lets say it was 'yes' I can reregister it. What exactly have I just spent $184 on? Their mistake of the past - that's what. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Oh yeah, I agree completely. It's bollocks. The reason the S21 is de-reg in the first place is because of their transition abortion and someone's incompetence as it was supposed to have been on hold and there's even the documents to prove it but they still tolled that bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Has anybody had any dealings with a Vintage Car Club certificate of authentication? I know of a motorbike that did not exist in systems and did not have a plate get reregd using a VCC certificate of authentication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimShadboltfan27 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 i didnt even know they did motorbikes? are there certain registered VCC's that they use or can it be from any "classic" vehicle club? my old man is on the committee for post-classic motorcycle racing and vintage motocross, was wondering if his two cents would mean anything to them. these posts do not give me any confidence in re-registering my bike, considering i have NO proof of it being on the road in NZ before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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