Seedy Al Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 hah, if you say so, It will be at OS nats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Clint, how does this work in respect of: Going from twin turbo to single turbo? and I'm currently running only 30% more power over factory, but with tuning could potentially make around 60% once tuned - how does this effect the requirements? if its a factory turbo engine, that has been modified with a bigger turbo etc, the 50% increase limit applies. I have a couple of times asked for a dyno sheet as proof that the car didnt make more than 50% more power than original when the owner didnt want to fit a loop. however this is only in the case of mild mods/smallish turbos etc. if its OBVIOUS that its going to make more/be easy to make more than the 50% then it will need a loop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Almost same question as Mike. What if the car is turbo standard, But now has a bigger turbo and intercooler, no chance of it being over 50% more ponies.. Does it still need a pair of loop? as above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 What about fancy assisted GPS that uses an accelerometer And gyroscope to approximate speed and position? i didnt know such a thing existed. Any details of one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e30-323ti Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 GPS Speedo - 400kph just because Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHGWAG Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 if its a factory turbo engine, that has been modified with a bigger turbo etc, the 50% increase limit applies. I have a couple of times asked for a dyno sheet as proof that the car didnt make more than 50% more power than original when the owner didnt want to fit a loop. however this is only in the case of mild mods/smallish turbos etc. if its OBVIOUS that its going to make more/be easy to make more than the 50% then it will need a loop Thank you sir.Looks like I won't need a loop, as I'm not pushing more than 50% more power and can prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanfels Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Not that driveshaft loops are hard to put in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 So Clint I keep hearing about fitting non-factory turbos and external wastegates now require a cert. Is that bogus?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHGWAG Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Not that driveshaft loops are hard to put in It would just be a PITA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camo_78 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 seeing as we are on the subject of driveshafts loops,my partner and i are looking at getting our mk5 sport certed for lowering as when its on 13s its 70mm at Xmember.because its running more or less stock motor will i need loop??well,2 loops cause its a 2 piece shaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKer Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 what for? you have just lowered it aye, nothing about the details you have supplied right there suggest you need loops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTorque Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 So Clint I keep hearing about fitting non-factory turbos and external wastegates now require a cert. Is that bogus?? taken from the wof rule book "LVV certification is always required for the fitting of a supercharger or turbocharger as a modification, or the upgrading of a supercharger, turbo or wastegate, or the re-chipping of electronic engine control units on turbo vehicles." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I've seen the mess made by an explosive UJ failure at the drags. It made a fuck of a mess. It made me (and everyone else who saw it) say fuck, I better fit one of them to my car. Unfortunately saying isn't doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRWEST Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 taken from the wof rule book "LVV certification is always required for the fitting of a supercharger or turbocharger as a modification, or the upgrading of a supercharger, turbo or wastegate, or the re-chipping of electronic engine control units on turbo vehicles." hasnt this always been the case just every wof inspector doesnt know if youve upgraded your turbo with another factory looking/bolt on turbo as they wont know every single turbo model fitted to every different car. Therefore not really looked at that hard unless blatently obvious? Our local wof guy wont give a wof with a bov now as this is in the rules somewhere also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTorque Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 To my knowledge blow off valves are fine. It is a bit hard to spot a chipped ecu tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 So Clint I keep hearing about fitting non-factory turbos and external wastegates now require a cert. Is that bogus?? yep, is true. It has been a rule for years, however it has only become "known" about more recently. Happens now and then, i reckon what happens is wof dudes and/or police have a newsletter or a reminder or something that XYZ is illegal, and it becomes the new Big Deal. for a while it was noisy exhausts, lately its been external wastegates and wheel sizes that dont match cert plates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 there was talk of blow off valves being banned, but that got canned as far as i know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camo_78 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 what for? you have just lowered it aye, nothing about the details you have supplied right there suggest you need loops only other noteable mod is a sierra 5 speed,which uses all factory parts anyway so doesnt need cert(as far as i know anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 What's the deal with requiring a cert for a blowoff valve / banning them? Is it just another thing used to target obnoxious boy racers? Coz I see no other reason for it. They don't really add any power or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 from memory, it was the noise issue that caused the suggestion they would be banned turbo in my car makes heaps more noise with the bov not hooked up.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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