For Questions Regarding WOFs/CERTs/NUMBER PLATEs

[Nominal]

Carb to EFI or vice versa is now explicitly captured

[ajg193]

Bloody bureaucracy I tell ya. Time to drive all our old cars into the city and protest

[cletus]

@NickJ I wouldn't think those ex roll bar mounts would be an issue, maybe put some bolts in the holes  

[RUNAMUCK]

1 hour ago, Nominal said:

Carb to EFI or vice versa is now explicitly captured

Man, that's a list of all the fun stuff......

[Bling]

Could be worse (and will be one day), could be the list of outright banned modifications.

[yoeddynz]

Is this something that you @cletuswill be dealing with or is it heavy vehicle engineers? Sounds like a big fuck up by nzta!....

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/447774/nzta-manual-change-causes-headaches-for-horse-truck-and-motorhome-owners

[Nominal]

Heavy vehicles are a different crowd.

https://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/hvsc/tb/modifications-to-trucks-cabs

Main lesson is, don't cut up the cab nowadays. Pretty harsh to be invalidating existing builds though.

[cletus]

1 hour ago, yoeddynz said:

Is this something that you @cletuswill be dealing with or is it heavy vehicle engineers? Sounds like a big fuck up by nzta!....

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/447774/nzta-manual-change-causes-headaches-for-horse-truck-and-motorhome-owners

Apart from answering the phone a million times to explain the difference between heavy and light certification,  and hear all about their camper van and how long they have had it and how many cofs it's already had and how ridiculous the rules are here in nz blah blah blah 

 

No, thankfully I dont have to deal with it  

[Bearded Baldy]

Fuck yeah, my 1989 T3500 is in the clear.

[kws]

If a car has been manually deregistered about a month, is there any way to reverse the process without having to reregister the car?

Still has plates, had current rego at the start of last month but is now "cancelled". 

[Nominal]

Unlikely

31 minutes ago, kws said:

If a car has been manually deregistered about a month, is there any way to reverse the process without having to reregister the car?

Still has plates, had current rego at the start of last month but is now "cancelled". 

How was the rego cancelled if they didn't hand the plates in?

Probably you are out of a luck but might be worth a call to NZTA

[kws]

My guess is the car was sold to a wrecker as part of an estate, and they dereg after they dropped it off (or had it picked up) claiming it was being taken off the road. 

You don't have to hand the plates in if you have a reason not to (like you sent the car to "scrap" with the plates still on). 

It looks far too tidy to just scrap it, would be a shame, but it's also a pain to have to do the rerego process. 

It's reason for cancel on carjam is "taken off road permanently" 

[kws]

A not so quick call to NZTA confirms they have no interest in helping and it's a firm no on reversing a cancellation. 

I feel like there should be a grace period where it can be reversed. I guess they're of the mind that any old car off the road is a win, so why would they care?

[locost_bryan]

Can you use the "reuse of plates" option? https://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicles/licensing-rego/number-plates/ (scroll down to "Re-issuing number plates")

... although that would be re-registering the car.

[kicker]

32 minutes ago, kws said:

It's reason for cancel on carjam is "taken off road permanently" 

That wording is one of the options on the dereg form isn't it?

It's lame but I am not surprised at the Vogon-like bureaucracy
 

[Nominal]

14 minutes ago, kws said:

A not so quick call to NZTA confirms they have no interest in helping and it's a firm no on reversing a cancellation. 

I feel like there should be a grace period where it can be reversed. I guess they're of the mind that any old car off the road is a win, so why would they care?

That is a specific approach from the govt

https://rightcar.govt.nz/scrapping-a-vehicle

 

 

[Testament]

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Why scrap a vehicle?

Vehicles reach a point where their running costs are more expensive than replacing the vehicle. Typically, this happens when a vehicle reaches 16 years of age.

[kws]

17 minutes ago, Nominal said:

That is a specific approach from the govt

https://rightcar.govt.nz/scrapping-a-vehicle

 

 

That's crazy. I'm sure my Honda Fit is only a 1 or 2 star car, but it's a damn good car and cheap to run. But no, I should scrap it and get a new car. 

[Bling]

How the likes of "Rightcar" and ANCAP are allowed to exist in their current states I don't know. The whole rating system is garbage and isn't close to accurate when it comes to actual safety. Boils my piss.

One example, there will be MANY.

https://rightcar.govt.nz/detail?q=g52790

Zero stars.

 

Has better occupant safety than this: I picked this van as I used to have one as a work vehicle.

https://rightcar.govt.nz/detail?q=g52248

Which is 5 stars.

 

Basically if you don't tick all their boxes, most of which do not relate to your survivability in a crash, we'll give you zero stars. Over time we'll add new boxes that old vehicles that aren't retested don't need to meet. So an old 5 star rating lasts forever and can be less safe than a zero star vehicle (which is safe) released today. What a joke.

 

[Raizer]

Lol my 96 Hiace has a better safety rating than that new Mitsi van
And that's with them lumping all 96 Hiaces in together as the low spec trade model and stating it hasn't got airbags or ABS (which mine does)