For Questions Regarding WOFs/CERTs/NUMBER PLATEs

[kseries.rookie 836]

If I brought a car that was stolen and recovered and then de registered from insurance company - would they have removed the VIN plate off the firewall?
Engine, chassis and plate number etc match up so i don't think it's too much of a dodgy situation but if that a major if it's missing for the re vin process or do they create a new one anyway?

[tortron 67,099]

They just need to be able to identify it and will put a new one on

 

They were happy to revin one of my bikes, even though it had the vin removed and the frame number ground off as there was enough info there to identify it through the police.

 

insurance wouldnt have removed the vin or anything when dereg, just the plates. Thieves could have done anything

[dmulally 664]

Quick question on safety hoops. Do two piece tailshafts need just one next the gearbox or two including an extra one near the centre bearing? 

[Beaver 8,745]

They need two.

[Transom 6,062]

2 - one just behind gearbox uni one just behind centre bearing uni - at least that’s what I had to do on my hilux with 2 piece rear shaft 

[dmulally 664]

Thanks, gents. I was in town and popped my head into the cert guy's office and got the lowdown and he confirms it. 

His note was that if the uni is before the center bearing than it only needs one. A 66 chev has it after so no biggy. Two it is. 

 

[ajg193 9,803]

@cletus what's the story with cert prices going up?

 

I would have almost expected them to decrease due to NZTA funding deal and abolishment of cert plates

 

[kyteler 62,327]

4 minutes ago, ajg193 said:

@cletus what's the story with cert prices going up?

 

I would have almost expected them to decrease due to NZTA funding deal and abolishment of cert plates

 

How would that make sense when the work that was there prior still exists, the medium its presented on has changed and the work required to be put on the medium is greater? 

[Yowzer 35,314]

Financial compensation for dealing with utter morons. Seeing some of the shit Clint has to deal with makes my brain itch.

[ajg193 9,803]

Work required to put on the medium would be reduced, wouldn't it? You don't need to write any data to the tag. And assuming there is a decent computer system in place it should be pretty simple for the cert guy to put the data into the database

[ajg193 9,803]

Also, I'm not asking/saying this stuff as an attack on the LVVTA, I'm just genuinely interested in the reasons behind what is happening.

[cletus 40,955]

There was going to be a much larger increase which would have been unaffordable. The NZTA deal took care of most of it but there was still a shortfall which is covered by the increase

The cost part that certifiers pay is pretty much $200, next year it will be $250 

It sounds like there will be a few things to lighten the blow a bit though, the new system instead of plates will make things a lot easier, and the CCM will probably be free to download  

[cletus 40,955]

2 minutes ago, ajg193 said:

Work required to put on the medium would be reduced, wouldn't it? You don't need to write any data to the tag. And assuming there is a decent computer system in place it should be pretty simple for the cert guy to put the data into the database

Nah I think it will probably be a bit more work, certifiers dont do the data entry bit, that will be LVVTA, so more info to put in plus sort through which photos to use 

[ajg193 9,803]

Do you get bonus points for a cheeky nutsack in the photos?

[cletus 40,955]

Only if @KKtrips is doing the formset review  

[kyteler 62,327]

26 minutes ago, ajg193 said:

Work required to put on the medium would be reduced, wouldn't it? You don't need to write any data to the tag. And assuming there is a decent computer system in place it should be pretty simple for the cert guy to put the data into the database

The data tag writing is time consuming in terms of turnaround, sure but in comparison, depending on the method of storage of data and upload and access to said data, there is likely a higher volume of work to be done even if accessing it is easier it still has to be input to be accessed. 

[ajg193 9,803]

TBH, effectively including the cost of the CCM in the price of the cert is a really good idea. That alone would more than justify the increase of $50 in my books

[KKtrips 23,447]

39 minutes ago, cletus said:

Only if @KKtrips is doing the formset review  

I have a full album of Clints nutsack from multiple angles and reflecting from shiny surfaces.

[Nominal 59,186]

8 minutes ago, ajg193 said:

TBH, effectively including the cost of the CCM in the price of the cert is a really good idea. That alone would more than justify the increase of $50 in my books

I'm still grumpy that they wouldn't provide the pdf version to people that had purchased the paper version previously.

[KKtrips 23,447]

To be fair, the price increase was not our call, but NZTA gave us money to update the standards faster and some extra project work (among other things)

They said they would put XX% of the amount we needed to do the extra work, provided we made up the other ZZ%. So after they gave us the money then they insisted we made up our ZZ% through a plate fee increase. (trust me its not very much money when you see how much NZTA blow on consultants and the like)