Bling Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Sweet thanks for the info team. Will grab some rubber grease and hylomar blue tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Yeah theres few things more annoying than a seal that decides to start leaking after you've removed and refitted all the stuff to get to it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 With my water pumps I just use the gasket that comes with it, no sealant or anything unless it specifies it. Those paper gaskets usually work well. Regarding leaky seals, I replaced my starlet's sump gasket like 4 years ago and didn't put enough sealant at the specified points and it has been slowly dripping ever since. Requires removing the gearbox to get at it and I still haven't built up the motivation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I put a duel cone K&N washable pod filter on the Volvo 245 for a temporary air filter as I removed the old one and then crushed it and fuck me it uses no petrol at all anymore, I gave it a spray down with filter oil to, do they filter all right, will it stop the small partials as much as a paper filter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, SOHC said: I put a duel cone K&N washable pod filter on the Volvo 245 for a temporary air filter as I removed the old one and then crushed it and fuck me it uses no petrol at all anymore, I gave it a spray down with filter oil to, do they filter all right, will it stop the small partials as much as a paper filter? No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Nominal said: No. Haha, I ordered a new paper filter today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Put the waterpump on engine today, turns out the metal bypass pipe is too short as the original waterpump potentially had a metal step or something (long since rusted away). Found a bit of galv pipe, and extended it, banged it all together and will see how it seals tomorrow. What a nightmare. I have a feeling it's 1-2mm too short and not putting big pressure on the o-rings that fit down the recesses. Replacing the whole pump is biting me in the arse. If that doesn't work I may just epoxy some stubs in and put a rubber hose between the points. Only just thought of that right now... fuck. So mad right now. Cars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yetchh Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Bling said: Put the waterpump on engine today, turns out the metal bypass pipe is too short as the original waterpump potentially had a metal step or something (long since rusted away). Found a bit of galv pipe, and extended it, banged it all together and will see how it seals tomorrow. What a nightmare. I have a feeling it's 1-2mm too short and not putting big pressure on the o-rings that fit down the recesses. Replacing the whole pump is biting me in the arse. If that doesn't work I may just epoxy some stubs in and put a rubber hose between the points. Only just thought of that right now... fuck. So mad right now. Cars. I wonder why they would do that and not use a rubber hose.. Seems a bit mickey to me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Yeah it's a bit shit. Here is the setup, so i'm guessing most people just replace the front half. Which I would have done, but figured a whole new unit would be better. Can see the pipe there with the o-rings. Could be due to buying off RockAuto and the 4AC being slightly different somehow. Pretty sure the part numbers will have matched otherwise I wouldn't have grabbed it. But anyway, I think i'll try source some pipe and hose as it would mean I have allowance to work with. I've already fucked around linishing down a pipe, cutting it in half and adding 5mm to it by way of welding. But a bit of rubber hose will be a better solution I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpr Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 just get the right pipe. rwd 4age one probably same 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Hmm could be an option. I didn't think it would even be available to be honest as the waterpump itself is NLA via Toyota along with the radiator hoses. Hadn't looked up that part photo to be honest as the pipe I "had" (now chopped) looked complete, but way too short. But going by that photo, both ends have rusted completely off and no longer exist. Seems like the pipe just floats in between the two sections too as it doesn't look long enough to bottom out. Guess the o-rings mean that is legit. Just not convinced my housing is in good enough condition to seal to an o-ring. Will look on the web to see about sourcing a pipe. Edit: seems like a hard part to track down, at least from someone that will ship direct and not for $100 shipping. Maybe just using the longer tube I made and some hylomar blue will do the trick. Or I could try and grove my pipe to fit the o-rings. Will look into this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpr Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I thought that may have been the case the way you worded it. worth seeing if toyota has them. I can attempt to measure the gap between the water pump and water neck on my 4age setup if you like? to see if they are the same. no guarantees tho as its a knob to get to without pulling stuff apart assume you have seen these ones ? 57 shipped bit spendy for a bit of pipe i guess. https://www.sq-engineering.com/product/16v-4age-water-bypass-pipe/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Cheers, the cheapest option I've seen so far, hadn't come across that though had just been looking up part numbers. Don't worry about trying to measure yours, it will be a nightmare to do. Thanks though. Will try Toyota, they may have some old stock in some obscure storage. 4AGE could well be the same. Problem I have now, is that I understand why the inside of the top outlet is so rough, part of the tube may still be stuck in it. So i'll take that off the car again and tidy it up. If I can't get it clean enough for an o-ring i'll need to come up with another solution. Which is where I may end up back at two short pipes and a clamped rubber hose. Just have to find some alloy pipe of appropriate diameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I need a little under 2M of this, who would sell it by the meter ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 The previously mentioned companies didn't have any? They might have leads on someone that does at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Sounds like something a bicycle builder may have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, SOHC said: I need a little under 2M of this, who would sell it by the meter ? Perhaps the outfit you got that picture from would be a good start http://www.steelcuts.co.nz/index.php?route=product/product&path=70&product_id=176 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, Beaver said: Perhaps the outfit you got that picture from would be a good start http://www.steelcuts.co.nz/index.php?route=product/product&path=70&product_id=176 Asked them, they get it from someone and jack up the price, he basically told me to get fucked the other day so won’t be one back 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Lol, great business model then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Beaver said: Lol, great business model then The main boss is ok but the worker is grumpy as hell, he got shitty when I have him the measurements in Inches even tho that tube is measured in inches, and he sed tell me what length in English, I was like um that is English. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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