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@cletus would this be one of the dodgy ‘murica conversions? (Ie not a seperate chassis?)
econovan Camper in nz but uncomplied 

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Although this is a running vehicle, it is not road legal. I lived in it for a year, at a camp ground. It has all facilities, kitchen, toilet, shower, 3way fridge, tv etc. New awning, gas stove top and oven and a new heavy duty battery. It is a 8 1/2 mtr 1989 Ford Econovan American import, lefthand drive. It has not been registered in NZ, it has only been used as a park up. All questions will be answered honestly.”

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12 minutes ago, datlow said:

@cletus would this be one of the dodgy ‘murica conversions? (Ie not a seperate chassis?)
econovan Camper in nz but uncomplied 


I would say it would be a separate chassis, the dodgy ones were usually vans with mods to the van body, that looks like it was probably a cab chassis deal to start with. @Nominal sounds correct, I'd bet it would be over 3500kg so would need the handlebars swapped over, heavy vehicle cert, RUC,  all that stuff  

 

Probably why it has never been complied already

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This is probably the same starting point that it was built from, this has a gvm of 4500kg so would be classed heavy vehicle 

Also this one has a big block petrol engine so can you imagine how many petrols this would use. Aaaalll of them  

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Aah damn (will double check weights etc)

cheers guys

/had dreams of bagged camper :cry:

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44 minutes ago, datlow said:

Aah damn (will double check weights etc)

cheers guys

/had dreams of bagged camper :cry:

It might not be so bad if it has a proper RV manufacturers FMVSS plate, and hasn't been further modified:

 

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https://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/entry-certification/technical-bulletins/entry-cert-changes-modified-vehicles

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@cletus  am I going down the right path? Have no exact dimensions and it's massively out of scale but materials listed are what I intended to use. 

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Yeah that would be ok, probably a good idea to reduce the number of plug welds in the plate on the chassis 

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16 hours ago, ajg193 said:

Is it true the lvvta is doing away with cert plates?

Last training session we had, there was a plan to get rid of plates and replace them with a small plastic disc with a chip in it, that you could scan and it would take you to a website or app or something with photos of the vehicle as certified, and much greater detail on vehicle mods than can be fitted on the plate 

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So every traffic cop and wof guy would need to be able to scan the disc? Not particularly helpful for potential buyers of a modified car if they can't scan the disc themselves.

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They all have the capability to scan whatever already. Parking tickets just drive by and the cameras scan the plates

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You would scan it with a phone, so most people would be able to access the info

 

 

 

I dont know how that works, 

 but everyone being able to access the info was discussed and there is a way of doing it apparently 

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Yeah would be pretty easily doable with a QR code. They just direct you to a website link, so that link can be the cars detail page on the LVVTA site or something I imagine.

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1 hour ago, igor said:

Not particularly helpful for potential buyers of a modified car if they can't scan the disc themselves.

Just because you don't know how technology works, doesn't mean it doesn't work.

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3 minutes ago, Bling said:

Yeah would be pretty easily doable with a QR code. They just direct you to a website link, so that link can be the cars detail page on the LVVTA site or something I imagine.

Makes you wonder why the system can't just be a simple case of "just scan/type in the vin number". Even just using number plates would probably work fine, surely it wouldn't take too much to keep the records up to date if someone puts a new plate on the car.

/Surely it wouldn't be too much oppression to just bring in a rule saying all old cars need a vin tag installed on them.

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4 hours ago, cletus said:

Yeah that would be ok, probably a good idea to reduce the number of plug welds in the plate on the chassis 

I'll do 2 or 3 either side. I'll have a better idea once engines out and I get the area cleaned up. Is there any "rule of thumb" methodology that I should be including? 

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I see there being a great market in bootleg lvv discs that QR code  link to a hacked page showing sick modified car as all legal occifer...

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6 hours ago, cletus said:

Last training session we had, there was a plan to get rid of plates and replace them with a small plastic disc with a chip in it, that you could scan and it would take you to a website or app or something with photos of the vehicle as certified, and much greater detail on vehicle mods than can be fitted on the plate 

If only there was a plate of some sort on the front and rear of the vehicle with letters and numbers of some sort that could be put Into a website to bring up details about the vehicle ?

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