cletus Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 but sounds like a case of the certifier just being lazy.. nail on the head there we have to inspect ALL modifications, plus "safety items"- basically a wof check. If the car has had a wof check in the past 14 days then we dont have to check those things- the wof inspector takes the responsibility. i still check the car as normal anyway even if there is a recent wof check....who knows who looked at it, and quite often there is shit wrong like knackered ball joints or perished brake hoses which are better to know about before doing the road test........ i wouldnt rely on the wof guy to tell me whats been modified it can make it easier if the owner writes down all the mods they have done so we dont have to go hunting for whats been changed- nobody knows whats been modified better than the person who did it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 cheers cletus, that clears up what I was asking perfectly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 if i was to revin a car with lapsed rego what engine would need to be in it the same engine THAT INDIVIDUAL car had or any engine that model of car came with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 same as wof- if its got a bigger/turbo engine than factory, it will need cert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 same as wof- if its got a bigger/turbo/different series/family of engine than factory, it will need cert Just added a wee note there, pretty sure it's correct? You'll confirm or tell me to fuck off I'm sure .. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 you are correct, i was just being lazy not typing it all out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 so if i was say to recomply a 620 ute that had a j15 in it, it would need a j15. poo the yank market had l20b's in them was hoping to get away with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanners Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 So I wasnt going to ask... but I have new firewall/tunnel welded up. If I've POR15'd it inside, and sprayed body deadener on the underside, is my cert man going to make me strip the paint at the welds? Cos there is a lot of welding and I hate to think how hard my POR15 is going to be to get off nicely. Ditto for deadener, its so tacky. Tunnel is very straight forward, nothing complex about it, just a box. Also how do people view rivets? I have a plate riveted on, it just covers the old handbrake hole. Looks kinda chunky but is hardly structural. Cheers fellas (cletus?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 this is where i personally would have had a chat to the certifier about it , then if he wants he can come round / you take it to him to have a look and make sure shit is kosha. nothing worse then doing that kind of stuf and finding out he dont like it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanners Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Hey who is good to use for Cert in wellington? I only know of that belt up place Lower hutt, and have spoken to the guy before and seems nice enough, but just wondered if anyone had a preferred cert man? Need to ask some questions, possibly need to get him round etc Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 legally, how much suspension travel (in mm/inches) must you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 legally, how much suspension travel (in mm/inches) of compression and droop must you have? elaborated. I'm also interested in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock-Lee Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I have rung up a certifier and been told that you can go down to half the original travel w/o a cert. And with a cert it is up to the individual certifier as to what he deems safe. As for droop I was told that as long as the wheel can be removed to change a flat tyre then its legit. *waits for Clint to tell me I'm wrong* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 My 86 only has about 20mm suspension droop, and seems even less in compression (seems to use tire side walls as suspension?) never had any probs with WOFs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I have rung up a certifier and been told that you can go down to half the original travel w/o a cert. And with a cert it is up to the individual certifier as to what he deems safe. As for droop I was told that as long as the wheel can be removed to change a flat tyre then its legit.*waits for Clint to tell me I'm wrong* As with above, the certifier I have spoken to looks for 30mm of travel before hiting the bumpstops at which it must also comply with the ground clearance rule where if a diagonal line is drawn from front wheel rim (not including tyre) to opposing rear wheel, there must still be ground clearance throughout the length of this line - it's in the LVVC manual and probably explained better. No specifics were given on droop, but I'm sure Clint can ellaborate more on this. Both zep and I had our cars setup with no droop (preloaded springs) at various stages of their development and they handle and ride shockingly, as you can probably imagine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I've heard before somewhere that you need 50mm for WOF, I'm guessing this isn't true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 from teh VIRM for Wofz - "suspension components maintain sufficient clearance from unmodified bumpstops when fully laden" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 hobby car manual says 40mm minimum as a rough guide. really depends on the suspension/how big and soft the bumpstops are/what car/how many passengers it carries/what it drives like etc. a vehicle must still be safe loaded- eg a 5 seater must be able to carry 5 X 80kg persons and still have travel. a lot of smaller cars dont meet this requirement because the springs are too girly. eg a 323 wagon with reset original leaves with 40mm bumpstop clearance, usually is on the bumpstops with 2 passengers in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 droop again depends on the suspension, but usually can get away with a bit less droop than bump travel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 is it an actual requirement to have things like modified engine mount welds and suspension welds crack tested or is it just up to the certifier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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