Truenotch Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 You know what to do. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitesseEFI Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Ah…. Similar to above I’ve seen “flywheels” offered for manual conversions on V8 Audis which retain the flex plate for the ring gear and timing ring , just adding the minimum material to attach a clutch to as a bolt-on extra. Bolts to the crank with the flex plate sandwiched between them. Very light and (relatively) cheap. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Is the Fidanza option not going to work for your application? 2ZZ bolts may be what you're after too Edit: nope they too short https://arp-bolts.com/kits/arpkit-detail-b.php?RecordID=2955 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 https://www.monkeywrenchracing.com/product/fidanza-flywheel-toyota-2gr-fe-1mz-fe/ saw this when going down a rabbit hole on 2gr st185s, obvs for E series box but not sure if toyota lego applies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 Yeah that flywheel is my next best option. However it doesnt have anything to hold a spigot bearing to support the input shaft which the rwd gearbox needs. Since ive now hopefully got bolts that will work, will try persist with 3s flywheel and clutch for now. As if it works, its a $1000+ problem solved without spending much. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 I confess my rabbit hole started with st215 caldinas but couldnt find anyone who done that, would be a lush v6 awd wagon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 I think the awd is tricky, as one of the vees wants to exist where the transfer case goes? Has anyone done a gt4 or whatever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 ah I assumed it was a st185 maybe it was fwd, they only mentioned E series box and I had automatically thought with transfer case. They hug the block pretty close in 3s guise so you are probably right. good i dont need to waste time pipedreaming that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 mind you highlander/kluger uses u151f, just depends on offset of transfer case/front axle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitesseEFI Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 8 hours ago, Roman said: Yeah that flywheel is my next best option. However it doesnt have anything to hold a spigot bearing to support the input shaft which the rwd gearbox needs Got to be possible to get around that provided the g/box input shaft length is in the ballpark. I’ve opened out the centre bore on a couple of my Triumph flywheels to take a small bearing as favoured by Toyota and Mazda. Cheap and fairly easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUL8R Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Just a thought, there's a local guy down here that makes billet flywheels for stockcars etc, using the original flex plate ring gears. When I had my last one done, I sent to Engine Builders in wellington that said it had the least amount of balancing required of all they'd dealt with till that point? No reason why he couldn't spin one to suit your needs? https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/car-parts-accessories/ford/engines/listing/4154357973 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4nd Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 On 30/05/2023 at 15:34, Roman said: Cant go forward, because the alternator lives in the way on one side. On 01/06/2023 at 16:47, Roman said: Yeah non standard starter isnt an option. As this starter motor is quite short. I tried 1NZ and 3S starters, but neither would fit because they hit the engine mount. I found a GR motor starter at pickapart. You're right, I guess that's another tick in the box for a different flywheel. So will add that to the list of things to buy after my house sells. If I get to the point where I can get the motor started up, I guess I can always just put the auto flex plate thing on it for the meantime. Whether or not I've solved gearbox issues. Left field options: 1/ Run Alt off driveshaft 2/ ditch 'leccy starter, use compressed air reservoir into inlet(s) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris r Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 16 hours ago, h4nd said: Left field options: 1/ Run Alt off driveshaft 2/ ditch 'leccy starter, use compressed air reservoir into engine via old Di holes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Build a Coffman starter for it I reckon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Yowzer said: Build a Coffman starter for it I reckon Saw one of those for a Harley somewhere on the net recently, but couldn’t find it again to put here. /long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyscar Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Kinda makes you wonder if theres value in considering 2x different intake lengths? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4nd Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Looks interesting. You can't now rotate them outward into a wider V to smooth the airflow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatestben Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 It could be kinda cool to run a factory tortoise shell engine cover with the doort trumpets sticking out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roman Posted June 11, 2023 Author Share Posted June 11, 2023 ^What's that? I found the build log of the Japanese guy that built the 2GR KE70. Hoooooly heck he spent a lot of money on trial and error to make things work. Anyway, I found out what he did for the sump. Used the FWD alloy sump, and chopped the heck out of the oil pan. So yep this will work but it still sits the motor a lot higher than I'd like it. So hopefully current scheme in mind will still work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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