cletus Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 its been in the pipeline for a while bought about mostly by drifters skidding off the road and killing themselves and also hellaflushfitmentpokestance form>function youd be surprised how many cars get knocked back for tyres rubbing, and the owners idea for a fix is just get some camber arms so they can wind a heap of camber in, or preload the springs or put the shocks adjustment on way hard so it doesnt have any travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 What about the 'natural' camber that comes about when you lower nearly any car with independent suspension?? Do you have to buy / fabricate parts to correct that to within a degree?? Lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durty Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 just got back from certifier training.new rule- re camber, max is now original manufacturers specs, plus half a degree. thats going to be difficult........ What about shit as old cars that pretty much have positive camber. That is going to be balls as I know you aren't meant to but it's probably going to be simple enough to wind in a tiny bit more after cert. how is anyone really gonna be able to tell? Be awesome to see less shitty Silvia's etc with 90 degrees camber Also I'm guessing that if car doesn't need creating then can still wind in a million degrees and pass wofs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 If one wanted to slam a vehicle, but have it legal, what do I need to do? Captive springs? Are cut springs ok? With a cert can you have blocks greater than 2"? Or do you have to re-set the leafs? Certain amount of droop? Certain amount of travel? Even with a cert, is there a minimum hight rule? Regards, VG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnz.NZ Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 you couldnt drill a steel wheel unless it has a flat center.usually they have raised bits where the nut sits Ohk cheers mate I'm pretty sure these have a flat centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cute wee gem Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Balls, so my car that now has more camber than original spec, but is just lowered with no camber "mods" will now fail a cert? So do I have to now modify my subframe from original to keep the camber at stock angle? Should have booked it in 2 weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Lots of old cars ran + Camber to make the steering lighter. Datto's and Vals being among them. Huge can of worms......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H05TYL Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Join car club, get log book, should allow you to run a more agressive alignment shouldn't it? Because racecar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 yes, doesnt apply if you have authority card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark105 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 My understanding that its half a degree more then the highest point of the range. Usually a manufacturer will give a spec angle for camber and then a range. E.g a cars meant to have half a degree plus or minus half a degree. So you could ran an extra half on top off that... so in total this fictional car could run a total of 1 nd half degrees negative... older cars with positive camber are potentially going to be negatively effected but it's not as bad as it initially sounds... but as with most things common sense and experience will prevail... Keegan signed in under mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 yes thats correct- half a degree more than factory range of adjustment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Hi I dont know if you can help me but thought I would try. structural rust repairs. do these get signed off by a lvvta class 1C certifier or one of those vsf.org.nz certifiers or someone else? bit of a knob question I know, Ive had a hunt around and cant really find a definative answer?. any answer would be sweet cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 structral rust repairs- need repair certifier lvv cert only covers modifications here you go http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/speci ... c-list.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 that was what I was after/couldnt find on my own haha thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 widened steels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morkster Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 yes thats correct- half a degree more than factory range of adjustment Does that mean adjustable camber tops won't be certifiable if they can be adjusted outside the 1/2 degree allowable? (me thinks yes not certifiable) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 yes thats correct- half a degree more than factory range of adjustment Does that mean adjustable camber tops won't be certifiable if they can be adjusted outside the 1/2 degree allowable? (me thinks yes not certifiable) i doubt that would happen. it would be unreasonable, a factory suspension adjuster could be adjusted outside of oe specs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 widened steels? yes can be certed 2.3-3 to 2.3-9 in this here link http://lvvta.org.nz/documents/standards ... _Tyres.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Rights. My viva passed it wof today but I was advised that my wheels do not match the cert plate. Car is certed for 13x6 alloys but I have fitted widened steels in that width. Luckily the tester was a gc's and has just told me to get it sorted. I either have to swap the wheels for alloys or get it re-certed with the steels. My problem is that I don't have any form of receipt for where the steels were widened. I'm pretty sure they were done by elite in Chch but ages ago. They appear well made, spin true, hold air and it was noted when it came to balancing that they were even. What can I do? Kendall who certed it said I could just get one wheel crack tested and that should provide sufficient enough proof of quality to the certifier. And how much will I expect to pay to get my plate changed for different wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
be4ver Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 yeah i have a similar question, when i was getting my cert plate fitted to my lancer was having a yarn to the fella putting it on, when i mentioned id be putting different wheels on it eventually he said oh that will make this null and void you realize?. i was like nah.......? really? if true seems pretty dumb cos people change wheels on cars all the time without the need for a cert? or is this only true for widened rims... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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