cletus 38,329 Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 Front= theres a couple of things that would need to be done differently for cert, needs shocks, bottom arm welding would need tig& ndt Rear looks mostly ok but I wouldn't recommend a 2 link. With a 2 link, to have any side to side articulation something has to flex. Americans love doing 2 links in various things because they are easy, but virtually no OE manufacturers do them, the only one that i have come across that is common is 60s chev trucks but they have soft rubber bushes and the bars come in quite close together at the chassis end and the links can flex a bit cause they are a I beam shape. Some 4wd vehicles have a similar system (nissan patrol or safari, landcruisers etc ) but they all have big rubber bushes at the diff end for articulation Have a look at info sheet 05-2011 on the lvvta website, that has a lot of info about it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MightyJoe 4,702 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Hi Cletus, i'm looking at buying a car that was chopped into a ute years ago. Been off the rd yrs, rego isn't on carjam. What's the first step to looking at getting it back on the rd? Do i need to ring a certifier in chch and get him to have a look at it? Old mate reckons it was on the rd, but how legal it was I dunno. Also I've had a look on the lvvta website but haven't bought any of the download info yet, I was hoping to get a second opinion before I start spending too much and starting work on something which might always be a paddock car. Edit, pics added. It was a 4dr car which obviously has the rear doors still in it, just welded up, I have no idea about the general state of it yet but obviously I know it's a heap, but If theres a chance it could go back on the rd I'm more inclined to give it a go. I'd be updating the suspension and motor etc, no probs but chassis mods are all new to me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kyteler 59,696 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 My Prince isn't on carjam but it was still on the NZTA books. If you've got any papers or it still has its plates you might be able to contact them to find out. However you'll definitely need to cert it and I would be dubious about whether it would meet current criteria without serious bank. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MightyJoe 4,702 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Cheers, it's a big project I know, but the thing that I'm not sure about is the roof rewelded onto the middle of the rear doors, and the fact the doors are still there, just welded up. I dont mind a bit of bodgery, but I need legal bodgery Lol. Also mostly at this stage Im just not sure of the first step. edit, in the secomd picture also you can see the remains of the C pillars half way down the deck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bling 20,807 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Does the bottom half of the car still exist or has it become one with the earth? That is a monumental project right there. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MightyJoe 4,702 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 the floor inside exists but i dont know if it will support any weight, sills dont exist, not sure about the rear deck area as theres rotten ply over it, i'm not that hopefull. stupid big project i agree, but it could be great, put about 15 grand into it, and overnight parts from japan.... or it could just be a parts car. or give it a wash, coat of matt black and build a burnout car 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThePog 7,471 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Drop it onto an mx5 chassis? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MightyJoe 4,702 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 That would be a good idea. very good idea. its beyond my capabilities though, at this point in time anyway. i need to watch more youtube to attempt that. but i dunno, first i need to win the auction, then i need to assess it, then i need to make a plan, then i need to rob a bank.. if the roof chop is certable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cletus 38,329 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Ute conversions can be certified but you would want to allow for at least adding some strength into it First thing would be to get it, clean it out and see what it's like Youre a brave man haha 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MightyJoe 4,702 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 I'm an idiot more like. But thats good news! the B pillar looks intact where they've chopped it so theres that going for it, i can work the rest out. If it can be certfied thats good enough at this point. thanks for the info. i'd best try and buy it now then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
escortwags 616 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 @cletus - Thanks for that, looks like Ill go down the path of a much more "known" 4 link setup like the kit below then for the rear https://www.ridetech.com/product/weld-in-air4link-parallel/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shizzl 1,913 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 If you do an engine conversion on something that would almost double the og power, do you need to upgrade brakes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tortron 62,133 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 0-100 and stop + repeat brake test so probably Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bling 20,807 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Yeah basically needs to pass the brake test they use. Would totally depend on the car too, some would barely pass, potentially even fail that test with OG brakes, others will ace it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cletus 38,329 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Yeah depends on the car. Most things that have a vented disc on the front at least, can be prepped to pass the 5 stop test ok If it's got drums or solid discs or the brakes are tiny or the car is heavy- probably not 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shizzl 1,913 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 It's the hunter, solid discs, no booster = average at best. Id like to upgrade to atleast escort calipers with spacer kit and capri vented discs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sr2 1,221 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 3 hours ago, shizzl said: It's the hunter, solid discs, no booster = average at best. Id like to upgrade to atleast escort calipers with spacer kit and capri vented discs The Hunter came out with a Lockheed Hydrovac brake booster from new? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shizzl 1,913 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 43 minutes ago, sr2 said: The Hunter came out with a Lockheed Hydrovac brake booster from new? Possibly???? It has had the remote servo/booster removed at some point. Its just quadricep gains all day Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sr2 1,221 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 7 hours ago, shizzl said: Possibly???? It has had the remote servo/booster removed at some point. Its just quadricep gains all day Ouch ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shizzl 1,913 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 I've never had issues stopping it, actually has good solid pedal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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