0R10N Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Yes, well, sorry for seeking clarification! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 lols, woops. just read what I wrote and apologies for sounding like a cunt. but no, I dont think he will be able to get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSM Garage Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Im looking at fitting a N/A 4G63 twin cam engine into my wagon which currently has a 4G63 single cam. Will this transplant require a cert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTERUS Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Yes. Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSM Garage Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85_z31 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Ok so the new camber info sheet has come out and we can't exceed OEM Camber + 0.5 , fine whatever i can make it work to be legal and legit. My Question Regarding Cert is on front strut's with incorporated spindle (Datsun/ style ) So what about taking the camber plates rotating them 90deg by drilling new holes to use them to gain additional caster?, The static camber would be fixed , caster would be increased by sliding the plate as you would for adjusting camber, high speed stability would be increased and the front wheels would stay centered in the wheel guard and rubbing would not be an issue. New holes would need drilled in the strut tower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Does this mean that it's certified to run platform adjustable coilovers at all? The vehicle currently just has a standard strut/shock combo. I'm picking not. you are correct sir. Ok so the new camber info sheet has come out and we can't exceed OEM Camber + 0.5 , fine whatever i can make it work to be legal and legit.My Question Regarding Cert is on front strut's with incorporated spindle (Datsun/ style ) So what about taking the camber plates rotating them 90deg by drilling new holes to use them to gain additional caster?, The static camber would be fixed , caster would be increased by sliding the plate as you would for adjusting camber, high speed stability would be increased and the front wheels would stay centered in the wheel guard and rubbing would not be an issue. New holes would need drilled in the strut tower. in theory that would be do- able however then you would lose any adjustability as far as getting the camber correct and most cars get a fair amount of caster increase from lowering the car anyway, usually more than the spec on the sheet. last thing we need is someone deciding that caster should be within half a degree of what the sheet says, that would royally fuck things up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 My camber plates have already been installed and certed. In the rear the maximum camber I can dial in is -2 degrees. I can't go any more positive than this without basically re-doing it. I'll be putting my car through the certing process again once the new engine is running. When I do, am I exempt from the new manufacturer +/- 5 rule since the modification was certed before the new rule? Sorry if this has already been asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 yes if its already certed, and its all the same(not any lower etc) you dont need to worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Night Shamalayan Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Sorry guys, still batting on about camber rules but - I've found this picture in regards to the camber in my MX5. Seems to be a factory guide on adjusting camber and recommended levels. Design in the hairdresser express means it gets more camber as it gets lower. MX5's came in many different ride heights over different years... If these are the factory specs - what should happen if my car has a shorter ride height than what is stated in the guide? say i'm running an 290mm ride height? I might take this info with me if an amendment hasnt been made to the shit rule, and try and battle my case with it. legit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKer Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I always loled at measuring a cars "height" from guard to hub center : flares/rolling arch = instant fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Night Shamalayan Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I always loled at measuring a cars "height" from guard to hub center : flares/rolling arch = instant fail is it not how they do it currently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I always loled at measuring a cars "height" from guard to hub center : flares/rolling arch = instant fail How do you mean instant fail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I always loled at measuring a cars "height" from guard to hub center : flares/rolling arch = instant fail is it not how they do it currently? Yeah it is how it is measured for Cert. Unsure what the "instant fail" means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japawagons Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I always loled at measuring a cars "height" from guard to hub center : flares/rolling arch = instant fail Well it's due to the relationship between those being the same regardless of tyre wear and profile changes etc etc. And a cert is a final ok that you car is deemed safe so going and again changing things again makes it null and void regardless. Flare and or roll your guards prior to cert and = not instant fail. In the eyes of NZTA your car is finished when you decide to certify it, hence why the entire car is checked and recorded during the process, regardless of whether those are the mods you are wanting to get certed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKer Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 interesting all valid points and I know how it works, lol at ppl who continue to alter a car etc and throw money at certs : i'm just jelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Night Shamalayan Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 interestingall valid points and I know how it works, lol at ppl who continue to alter a car etc and throw money at certs : i'm just jelly i plan on doing it once, and once only. It's just becoming paint in the arse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 It's just becoming paint in the arse Mmm arse paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japawagons Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I plan on doing it multiple times but that's just because I'm forever changing things. I figured you knew the business, I just enjoy the sound of my own voice more than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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