Testament Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Better get some turbos instead, worlds strongest wheels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Tridents crop up on trademe all the time, shouldn't be too hard to get some road legal variants? Unless those ones are some oddball size that aren't as available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 ive never seen that written on them before, and ive had a few sets. i would wager that they are exactly the same as a regular casting, and that wording is some sort of arse covering exercise by the manufacturer. like KK said, your option is to find a greybeard that worked at cheviot or knows why the wording was added and see if you have any joy there. the other possibility is to get them approved by the TAC, maybe if you could prove they are the same as one that doesnt have the writing on it, ie same casting thickness and material, they could be approved for use on the road. if you want to pursue that you need to email justin@lvvta.org.nz hes the guy that organises the TAC meetings. or just get some wheels that dont have the writing on them. slotted wheels can be used, if they comply with 2.3 (2) in here http://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/standards/LVVTA_STD_Wheels_&_Tyres.pdf good luck, tridens are the ultimate in wheels, im not sure why anyone bothered making any other style of wheel after perfection was achieved, haha 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Hey Clint, Digging this up again as i am now at this stage of my project. Only 10 months later.. hah. Is there a certain grade alloy that these should be made out of? The LVVTA documentation on wheel spacers (as close as i could find to a brake rotor spacer) says: © Be manufactured from a solid block of suitable material Would 5086 Alloy be a "suitable material" ? Thankses. sounds fine if you are following the rules for wheel spacers. nzed would know better than me about the material spec so that will be ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachlander Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Hi Clint. I have some wheels to go onto my Soarer. The Soarer is 5x114.3 and the wheels are 5x120. I have enquired to Znoelli about making some custom adaptors at 15mm thick. They replied saying with the spacer being that thin that the wheel studs from the hub will be protruding from the spacers, and will hit the wheel. They recommended machining a pocket in the wheel which the stud will stick into. The wheels i have dont have a spot where it would be good to machine into as shown in the picture. My question is, am i able to cut the studs from the hub down so they clear the wheels? Or is that a big no no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 15mm adaptors are always a bit of a drama. either the nut is too shallow, so it doesnt comply with the minimum thread engagement rule of 'same as thread diameter', or there isnt enough material left under the nut taper and they warp/are not strong enough. 20mm ones always seems to work out easier. you can trim the stud if it sticks out past the face of the adaptor. you wouldnt be able to machine the rim. i hate adaptors. theres so many china ones around with shitty nuts that the taper doesnt match, or the taper is machined not parallel with the thread..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachlander Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I might go 20mm then to save the hassle. I would assume a company like Znoelli would make decent ones? Wont be getting cheap ones, i like the wheels staying on the cars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 good luck, tridens are the ultimate in wheels, im not sure why anyone bothered making any other style of wheel after perfection was achieved, haha Quoted for TRUTH! EDIT, Even Cheviot agree'd they couldn't do any better; So I contacted Cheviot industries and this got this reply... "Thanks you for your email, but the Alloy Wheel business closed in the 90s. Although we use the name and logo for our Plastic Accessories we manufacture, Alloy wheels are not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodie Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 "ive never seen that written on them before, and ive had a few sets." same here "or just get some wheels that dont have the writing on them." yep thats what I'm gonna do "good luck, tridens are the ultimate in wheels, im not sure why anyone bothered making any other style of wheel after perfection was achieved, haha" "Quoted for TRUTH!" always good to meet other people with excellent taste . Thanks for everyones input. The answer wasn't what I wanted but it was what I expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mof Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 So get car certed on other wheels of the same dimensions, grind off words and fit wheels after? Side note, cert guys actually removed the wheel? Edit. Was cheviot nz or aus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Always. Gotta make sure everything behind them is all G, check for wheel spacers, brake mounting etc etc. Often have to remove seats, trim, carpet etc to check for proper driveshaft loop installation, there's usually a lot of disassembly involved with certs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 We quite often discover things wrong with wheel mountings, studs too long / too short, slip on wheel spacers, things that the owners never disclose when they bring their cars in. Sometimes it's just a simple oversight. Sometimes they play ignorant. Ya can't take peoples word on anything so everything gets very thoroughly checked. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mof Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I don't think they took anything off the samurai, but I could be wrong. (He's out of business now, only one certer in chch now) I don't know how the van got cert in that case, it was dodgy as hell. (Cut up cross member, slip on spacers and 1.5 turns on front wheel nuts at most, loose steering column, rotors too small for calipers, no d/s hoop) Sorry spamming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I might go 20mm then to save the hassle. I would assume a company like Znoelli would make decent ones? Wont be getting cheap ones, i like the wheels staying on the cars. you should just sell me those wheels. hah. sounds fine if you are following the rules for wheel spacers. nzed would know better than me about the material spec so that will be ok Thanks Clint! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I would assume a company like Znoelli would make decent ones? yes they usually make good quality bits. hard to say the name though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locost_bryan Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 ive never seen that written on them before, and ive had a few sets. i would wager that they are exactly the same as a regular casting, and that wording is some sort of arse covering exercise by the manufacturer. An Aussie dude was asking about them, and posted a photo here http://www.mysandman.com.au/forums/showthread.php/2740-Unknown-mags/page2 Probably an arse covering exercise. I've seen similar wording on some Minilite and Panasport wheels, usually lightweight ones intended for circuit racing. Although postings on some forums imply it may have been to avoid expensive certification... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachlander Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I've got some 3 piece rays mesh with "competition use only" stickers on them. But have seen a few others with out them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingbrick Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I don't get how it mentions export.. Does that mean u can use them on the road in NZ if they were made in aus? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Although postings on some forums imply it may have been to avoid expensive certification... I would think this is probably the reason, to avoid some sort of certification type process to get an approval marking, like japanese wheels have JWL on them, or american ones have DOT, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unhuman Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I have a car that has had the battery relocated to the boot. One of the fail points on my cert sheet is that the battery cable needs to be secured avery 300mm. What kind of clips work best for this and where to buy? I assume others have had to do this. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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