Ned Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 In anycase you don't need to get anything xrayed, they use DPI, or MPI testing. first time for me (be gentle ) I is not sure how this shit goes, so cheers for clearing that up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedy Al Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 hmmm...... Stupid people making life dumb i to have a feeeling if you do it by wledingt he sleeves on the dont have to be crack tested. but I dont know shit I have never been questioned haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 so my work mate is looking at another car from a family friend with hand controls added... he was told that if you remove the hand controls, you need to re-cert it. this blows my mind... any ideas? he says the standard foot controls are still there also so from what he's told me, it should just be the case of unbolting some add-ons and do b-outs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 The car has been certified in the condition it was modified to (with disability controls) making that new condition the "baseline". Taking the controls out modifies it from it's baseline condition (albeit reset) and even though it's removing things, not adding them - it is still a modification.. There are also things to consider that MAY have been modified when going to hand controls - for instance holes drilled into the brake pedal arm. A leg being a lot stronger than an arm would now put a lot more force through that brake arm and that hole could be a potenital weakspot between the new point of force (the pedal pad) and the fulcrum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durty Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 just keep the hand controls? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKer Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 same as removing "coilovers" you also need a re~cert if going back OEM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 so even if they have the mounting points in there, can I remove the belts and run nothing? and what about the back seat in a 4dr, are you allowed to remove it for extra tool box space etc?, put a peice of ply in there all nice with carpet and a 12" sub or something? When my front seats are fully retracted back i think they'l be no room for anyone in the back anyways/toolboxes yes you can remove seats, you dont need to cert it either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRWEST Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 you can contact LVVTA direct and pay 50bux and they will send you a print out of the exact mods paper list for everything done to the car at the time of certing. Itl cover stuff that is not factory whether it needs a cert or not (at least mine did) . I got one for my last car as everything wasnt on the plate an i didnt have the papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I have a feeling that when you do it like that you don't even need to. In anycase you don't need to get anything xrayed, they use DPI, or MPI testing. if you go by the absolute letter of the law, any mods to suspension parts like that should be tig welded and crack tested. However, i have certed quite a few struts modified as per the link ie just a sleeve welded on to the original strut, and ive never had one knocked back by LVVTA. IMO the weld in that situation does not have a lot of load on it for the size of the weld, so its not super critical, as opposed to a strut welded at the base which has steering/braking forces and weight bearing on the welded join 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 as far as removing stuff that has been certed, it depends on what it is. if the car is returned to OE a certifier can check the car is oe, remove the plate, send it back to LVVTA who remove the modification off the NZTA database. i met Petra Bagust once cause i had to take a cert plate off one of her cars. BETTER WORK STORIES 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 There are also things to consider that MAY have been modified when going to hand controls - for instance holes drilled into the brake pedal arm. A leg being a lot stronger than an arm would now put a lot more force through that brake arm and that hole could be a potenital weakspot between the new point of force (the pedal pad) and the fulcrum. That is te reason te certifier has to check and make sure it has been returned to original correctly, sometimes the vehicle does need to be re certed for other remaining modifications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77magnum13hundy Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 as far as removing stuff that has been certed, it depends on what it is. if the car is returned to OE a certifier can check the car is oe, remove the plate, send it back to LVVTA who remove the modification off the NZTA database. i met Petra Bagust once cause i had to take a cert plate off one of her cars. BETTER WORK STORIES she is actually really tall, i saw her too once dropping a car off to gitrap toyota bakindadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kierbear Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Just went to get my muffler welded today, left my car at the garage for the day, told them to ring me if nothing goes as expected as i get screwed around and overcharged regularly. Get back to my car and he just put a new pipe on, not even the muffler, said he couldnt weld it. Then gave me a WOF. Now i sound like a 17yo boy with honda. this legal? lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Drive repeatedly past the pig station till you get pink stickered or run out of gas. If you run out of gas first then it's legal. True story - that's actually in the rule-book, check it out.. It's callled Richard Scarry's big book of WOF rules... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kierbear Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 i'm getting that shit sorted this weekend then. Thought there would be a pink sticker problem there, its screaming out quite a few decibels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Auto 1uz soarer converted to manual will need a cert, yes? There's no way around it any way by using only standard parts etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Not allowed (you can have supplementary GPS speedo, just not only a GPS speedo). Reason is it won't work in tunnels canyons etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I'm fairly certain you cannot use GPS speedometers. It's more the mileage side of things that is a concern, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSM Garage Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 No doubt been covered before. I cant find using search. With my twin cam conversion, will I need to install a driveshaft hoop? I know with any engine swap you need one but in theory, my engine is basically the same but instead of SOHC Carburetor its DOHC Injected. I have a feeling you still need a hoop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedy Al Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I am also interested in this question Tho I am pretty sure the answer is yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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