ajg193 Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Or just do it the way Toyota does and put the chain cover really close to the chain so it starts making grinding sounds when it is worn out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Gn125 chain I'm telling ya 1/4" pitch tho 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datlow Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Thought I’d stepped into the Barry thread...... my 2C, honda cx500 has basically what your doing, and they go for ever so meh Those three bolts can be loosened and some wiggle room to take up the slack of 40yrs of motoring However there is a little plug on the side of the case to chuck a mirror into to check this and the cam chain, possibly worth adding to yours? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Nothing like some chains to bring out the Barries. Oh and A+ project, definitely fun to follow the updates. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingbrick Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 This could quickly turn into the HOW TO MOVE A CONTAINER HOUSE thread. My vote is no chains. Use a hydraulic pump on end of crank, connected to a hydraulic motor that drives the oil pump. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 minute ago, flyingbrick said: This could quickly turn into the HOW TO MOVE A CONTAINER HOUSE thread. My vote is no chains. Use a hydraulic pump on end of crank, connected to a hydraulic motor that drives the oil pump. Magnets involved somehow. Or just fill the entire space up with hand cut gears. I'm sure the engine is together and propelling Kevin to the beach already tho 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yoeddynz Posted August 17, 2020 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, datlow said: Thought I’d stepped into the Barry thread...... my 2C, honda cx500 has basically what your doing, and they go for ever so meh Those three bolts can be loosened and some wiggle room to take up the slack of 40yrs of motoring However there is a little plug on the side of the case to chuck a mirror into to check this and the cam chain, possibly worth adding to yours? Yeah good idea on a little sight window. Or better yet - a little peephole camera which connects to a 7" screen on the dash for real time chain wear watching. With a strip of warning leds that light up progressively as the chain wears out. That will appease Anton I can use some sort of etch a sketch with one arm connected to the chain tensioner then linked via gear cables (shimano sis because that's my flavour) to the sketch pad on the dash. Real time graphs for @Roman @Spencer the chain barries on Retro Rides forum are good too... Until last night I had never heard of a 'hunting tooth' and then one excited Barry who thought he'd catch me out quipped in ... "have you added a hunting tooth for each chain run?" Fuck me! Here we go again ! I looked it up... "In design of all kinds of power transmission gearing, also applicable to design of chain or toothed belt drives. A "hunting tooth" is used to avoid gear ratios where the tooth count of one gear is an exact multiple of a gear it mates to (e.g. ratios 1:1, 2:1, 3:1 ...). The reason for avoiding integer gear ratios is that in such a design each tooth of the smaller gear always contacts exactly the same tooth or teeth in the gear it mates to. This in turn will cause accelerated wear, usually into an oval shape. Thus if designing an (approximately) 2:1 gear ratio, the designer uses gears with 49 and 24 teeth respectively, then every tooth on each gear comes in contact with on it's mating gear. This in turn causes minor variations in wear to be propagated across all teeth. In sprocket design, it is desirable to design for the chain or belt having a number of links which should not be evenly divisible by the number of teeth in any sprocket," Needless to say I hurriedly put down my evening cup of Horlicks, donned my best slippers and popped out to the workshop to check it out. By pure luck my combination of sprocket tooth counts vs chain link count happens to work out with an effective hunting tooth. Thank fuck. Must have been a birthday present from the engine god (yep- I was one year older yesterday) Although in reality if there was not a hunting tooth I'd probably have left it anyway... Its all shits and giggles 17 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 I was gonna mention the hunting tooth thing but figured chances are you would have gotten it right by luck or design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted August 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Ohhhhhh were you now. Easy to say that now eh? Too late - you cant claim that one barryboy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 i assume its all covered here https://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/automotive-transport/cars/listing-2747957445.htm?rsqid=cd8b784ff4454350984a094351e77831-025 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted August 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 All I need to do is stick some tape on my headlights and I'll have a race car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anglia4 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Or return to page 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatestben Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 to be fair, if whatever is chosen does fuck out and lunch the motor; I'd happily chuck some dollars in to help pay for the next motor. It would only provide more entertainment for us and Alex has provided a tonne of that on this forum for free 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePog Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Yea I say that when it lunches itself we run a poll to decide what the next engine should be, we all chip in to get it to Alex, then sit back and watch the mad antics as he solves all of the unwieldy problems in getting it to fit. To start the suggestions I choose an OM606 with a DPUK 600hp pump. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transom Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Na he is sold on this flat 6 thing - commer ts3 it is then lol 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted August 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, thegreatestben said: to be fair, if whatever is chosen does fuck out and lunch the motor; I'd happily chuck some dollars in to help pay for the next motor. Oh you guys. Lol. When this engine explodes I'll post up some fantastic vids and then start planning my Fezza f40 engine install which I'm totally happy to be gifted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Pretty sure a cam drive isn’t going to have a ‘hunting tooth’ in it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingbrick Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 This man makes a good point. Edit. Actually, it might, chain just needs the right number of links so it doesnt land on the same link with the same tooth each time....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted August 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 yeah pretty much that. I think it can have any tooth combination (so long as the cam sprocket has twice as many teeth as the crank one) but the chain has to have a number of links that cant be evenly divided by either sprocket. Does that sound right? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Ahhh I see. So kinda more a link and tooth ratio combo sorta thing. Learn something new every day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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