oldrx7 12,692 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 A few questions from me for a potential purchase I’m looking at Car is an Aussie import, the owner says he has paper work and has taken it for a cert check - and has supplied me with the cert check fail list. Big list of small things, so I’m comfortable I can fix most. If I bring the car from elsewhere in the country to Auckland, I’m presuming I pay a new certifier to conduct a new check? Once the cert is complete, is it a simple process to get a VIN wof and reg? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cletus 41,083 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 Yep you can take to a different certifier no problem You will need a vin number put on the car before you can get a lvv cert finalized, the VTNZ/VINZ/AA can do that without doing the entry certification check (you dont want to get that done as you only get 28 days to get the whole thing finished) Once you have your LVV cert then get the entry certification check done Usually pretty simple if you dont need a repair cert, it's basically a more extensive wof if you have all the right paperwork 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldrx7 12,692 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Cheers Clint, Still a small risk that the car may have had repairs in the past that I'm unaware of that may be revealed in the entry certification check then ... Looks like the guy has a VIN number assigned to the car (as it's on the cert check he sent me). Is there a way to check that this cert check paper work he's provided me is legit? Might sound a little paranoid, but just wanna make sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cletus 41,083 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Official fail sheet looks like this, pm me a pic if you want me to have a look for you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bling 21,948 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 I have checked the VIRM here: https://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/in-service-wof-and-cof/general/towing-connections/light-vehicle-towbar-and-fifth-wheel for towbar requirements and it doesn't really say (for light vehicles) there are any requirements for towbars to be of a certain standard. I know people knock them up all the time. My question is, can I rock a RockAuto towbar on my vehicle no worries? Even with shipping the cost is ~$420. Just asking in general really. How I read it, is it's sweet. But then i'm also not a heavy fabricator to know how legit the below design is. Looks like this, make by https://www.drawtite-hitches.com/ and they appear to have sold zillions of towbars. http://assets.rigidhitch.com/product_img/highres/76138.jpg img fail Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M.H. 6,789 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 That looks perfectly fine 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bling 21,948 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Sweet cheers. A google search shows that it's actually built out of quite thick plate, so i'm now pretty confident that it's up to the task. Just wasn't sure if I was missing anything WOF wise. But from the towbars i've seen on cars i'm assuming so long as they are of sound construction, it's an area not actually regulated for light vehicles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M.H. 6,789 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Yea towbars and light trailers dont actually have any real regulations, kinda scary but no one has died so not much of a worry 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yowzer 35,346 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 As long as they have a sticker stating their tow and load ratings to ignore it'll be fine. Workmate fails towbars all the time, it's lols / annoying coz fuck fixing towbars. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AllTorque 42,683 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 @Bling try these guys to compare a local price https://www.towbar.co.nz 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nominal 59,393 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, Yowzer said: As long as they have a sticker stating their tow and load ratings to ignore it'll be fine. Workmate fails towbars all the time, it's lols / annoying coz fuck fixing towbars. Fails them for what exactly? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bling 21,948 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, AllTorque said: @Bling try these guys to compare a local price https://www.towbar.co.nz Will do, a lot of places do off the shelf bars. I want the receiver type bar as my shins are sensitive to walking into fixed bars at pace. But will look at all the options when the time comes. Wiring is the bigger pain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AllTorque 42,683 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Those guys will make you one with a receiver if that’s what you want. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bling 21,948 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Yeah might hoon into local agent for those chaps and see what they say. I've only priced up genuine so far, which is why I started looking at other options lol. Was already on RockAuto shopping so figured i'd see what they offered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajg193 9,870 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 6 hours ago, Yowzer said: As long as they have a sticker stating their tow and load ratings to ignore it'll be fine. Workmate fails towbars all the time, it's lols / annoying coz fuck fixing towbars. As far as I'm aware there is nothing in the vrims about tow bar load rating documentation and he would therefore have no right to fail them? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kicker 19,312 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Hit up doozy for a sticker 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KKtrips 23,448 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 15 hours ago, M.H. said: Yea towbars and light trailers dont actually have any real regulations, kinda scary but no one has died so not much of a worry Excepting the case of the trailer that broke the drawbar and crossed the centreline and head-on'ed with a vehicle coming the other way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nominal 59,393 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, KKtrips said: Excepting the case of the trailer that broke the drawbar and crossed the centreline and head-on'ed with a vehicle coming the other way. Like this? https://www.nzta.govt.nz/assets/Vehicles/vehicle-safety-alerts/Product-recall-Bunnings-Trailpro-and-TP1-revocation-questions-and-answers-202003.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yowzer 35,346 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 2 hours ago, ajg193 said: As far as I'm aware there is nothing in the vrims about tow bar load rating documentation and he would therefore have no right to fail them? Wof inspectors have the right to fail whatever they feel like actually. Besides, this was the auditor who brought this on. Previously we paid no attention to towbars. Because as you say, there's nothing in the virm. But you try telling the auditor they're wrong. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tortron 67,323 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 What's the fail on them? Not fit for purpose? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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