Early jap nuter Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 In the far north we play a game to see what’s the newest dereged car is when we go shopping, so far a it’s a 2021 ranger 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 When the children were younger / still at home we used to play count the cars you see still in use that are older than ours. Sometimes we'd get into double figures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ul9601 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 "10. A lens is missing, or has a hole, crack or other damage that allows moisture or dirt to enter." asking for a friend. do i read it as crack is a fail or a crack that allows moisture or dirt to enter as a fail? in any case, if the crack is repaired, is it a pass or does the lens require replacement as a whole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 You are reading it correctly that if it allows moisture or dirt in its a fail 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 One of our cars has a cracked taillight lens cos wife backed into something. She took it to auto sparky cos it kept filling up with water and was corroding the bulb holder. Auto sparky drilled a small unobtrusive hole in the bottom of the lens to allow water to drain out. Many wofs later it still works fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARDRB Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 This feels like a dumb question and I'm almost embarrassed to ask. If a car is certified it has to be within a certain camber range. If I'm just on lowering springs and the camber is achieved through factory adjustment can I run say 3-4 degrees camber for a WOF? Is there anything in the VIRM about alignment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 On 11/10/2023 at 20:45, cletus said: cut the carpet out if it's got modified seats A round bit of pipe sharpened like a gasket punch, then made hot with a propane torch melts the carpet edge so it doesn't fray and makes a neat hole I put a nail through the carpet to mark the bolt hole in the floor. Then used a 12mm socket on an extension, heated the socket till it had a cherry red ring at the leading edge and the nail was a great target to lower the socket around, it burnt through the carpet and insulation leaving a perfectly round hole, plus it had the benefit of a nice cauterized the edge of the carpet so it wouldn't unravel (good old el-cheapo synthetic carpet material). Definitely far better than the old drill through the carpet jobby I used to do which just ended in multiple holes and with frayed carpet sticking out. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 21 minutes ago, GARDRB said: This feels like a dumb question and I'm almost embarrassed to ask. If a car is certified it has to be within a certain camber range. If I'm just on lowering springs and the camber is achieved through factory adjustment can I run say 3-4 degrees camber for a WOF? Is there anything in the VIRM about alignment? Technically no but excessive wheel alignment can cause handling issues. This means that if the vehicle veers significantly to one side, or the vehicle requires unreasonable force to steer, or the steering is unreasonably stiff, rough or light, or the vehicle does not handle safely under normal conditions of road use, eg the suspension is excessively hard or soft, or there is excessive body roll, or the vehicle does not self-centre, then it fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARDRB Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, KKtrips said: Technically no but excessive wheel alignment can cause handling issues. This means that if the vehicle veers significantly to one side, or the vehicle requires unreasonable force to steer, or the steering is unreasonably stiff, rough or light, or the vehicle does not handle safely under normal conditions of road use, eg the suspension is excessively hard or soft, or there is excessive body roll, or the vehicle does not self-centre, then it fails. Yeah, my last car was certed about 6 months before the camber restrictions came in and had about 4-5 degrees in the back and about 3-4 in the front. Was certed by Neil Fraser and we did roll center and bump steer correction. It drove well enough for a low car with a terrible scrub radius and wide wheels. This will be much more subtle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakesae101 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Just a cert question on calliper adapters, these have been previously certed they are adapters for evo brembos to holden commie uprights and clubsport discs. providing they are the correct thickness is the weld holding the two pieces to get the offset correct an issue? as I thought they had to be a single peice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Welding spacers on is OK in my experience. It only becomes an issue if there are welds in the main load path between the caliper and upright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Are keeper/helper springs OK for certification? Like these sort of things.. https://www.nzperformance.co.nz/bc-adjustable-suspension-keeper-helper-spring-pa-2 One of the things I'll have to deal with in the future is loose front springs (makita one ways) when the car jacked jacked off the ground. Iirc it's about 20mm gap. Currently the car has some very well secured straps, as is done extensively in the UK with imps wearing shorter springs. But I'm guessing this fix would not pass a cert? So if my 'strap ons' are not good enough then it's some keeper springs or start looking into making some coilovers with shorter insert etc etc but that's a whole new set of questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Not going to lie, I don't know what imp suspension looks like. I have similar keeper springs in my Rolla certed though. Is imp coilover or divorced up front? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Coil over on the front. Divorced (never actually heard that term used before now) at the back. The back end is fine - the coils there remain captive. Just these loose front springs to sort. I'd love it if I could swap the guts out and put in shorter inserts but I cant as they have non-servicable rolled over ends. If there was enough meat in the wall I'd cut the tops off the dampers, internally thread them and machine up some caps to retain some inserts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Another option would be cobra springs made to suit. That was a path I looked at for the rear of mine. They would do the maths on a spring needed to fit the specs you provide. 20mm longer for example with slightly lighter spring rate to keep final ride height the same? With the keeper springs you may need to make a custom adaptor to your your springs. There were only two sizes of spring that I recall, both within a few mm of each other to suit different coilover brands. I went keepers in front as needed 10mm more travel for cert, otherwise would have avoided as it means springs aren't tight in coilover, but does the job fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 12 hours ago, yoeddynz said: Are keeper/helper springs OK for certification? Like these sort of things.. https://www.nzperformance.co.nz/bc-adjustable-suspension-keeper-helper-spring-pa-2 One of the things I'll have to deal with in the future is loose front springs (makita one ways) when the car jacked jacked off the ground. Iirc it's about 20mm gap. Currently the car has some very well secured straps, as is done extensively in the UK with imps wearing shorter springs. But I'm guessing this fix would not pass a cert? So if my 'strap ons' are not good enough then it's some keeper springs or start looking into making some coilovers with shorter insert etc etc but that's a whole new set of questions. I presume this is still correct information Captive Springs via restrictive straps | LVVTA Forum (proboards.com) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Sweeeet. Mine are made from quality strop but I could easily whip up some wire rope items as per above link suggests. @cletus @KKtrips does this sound OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Thinking out loud you could also get some progressive springs made, best of both worlds. Long enough to remain captive and secure between top hat and base. Without needing to be a soft spring to be the right length / spring rate. My rear springs are progressive. They are stupidly short, but they are progressive. I'm guessing budget is the reason to run straps or the likes vs new springs that fit the bill? I was pretty close to getting Chamberlains to make me a pair of springs but due to time constraints, I made what I had work. But it would have been easier than the extra effort needed to make my stuff work. Also keep in mind you need 40mm droop or 1/3 of suspension travel as droop. Could be worth having a measure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Yeah that's another idea, although even without knowing the cost of custom springs, i bet they are more expensive then making wire rope retainers (but much cleaner looking....) Currently I have something like 30mm, maybe a bit more, of droop before the straps got tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Does rhe spindle of your lathe not have a large enough throat to fit the shock in to shorten it? Thats i all did in the last shitbox i lowered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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