Goat Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Thats true. Will report back tomorrow Edit: ^ Yep, thats what the cert guy i am using said. Emphasised the 50x60 washers with 10mm bolts. Will ask him tomorrow. Though i don't want to be one of those people who try and argue etc. As that could make my life dificult come cert time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Can I fit lake pipes to a station wagon? I did have them on a ute but there is some rule about cars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 As long as they exit past the passenger compartment openings they'll be fine. However as the rear doors often overhang the rear wheels, lake pipes won't pass. Unless they go past the rear wheels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I searched "wagon lake pipes" and this popped up except when you search that you don't actually see any wagons with lake pipes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mof Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Try "side pipes" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 driveshaft loop info sheet is still current. as well as plates on top of floor etc, the loop must have vibration proof fasteners ie nyloc nuts or spring washers as far as exhaust= rule here http://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/standards/LVVTA_STD_Exhaust_Noise_Emissions.pdf 2.1(5) has the bit regarding where it can exit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 "terminates in a position where the outer end of the exhaust pipe is not directly underneath the passenger compartment." Is there a definition to where the passenger compartment ends? I always took it to the edge of the doorframe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 ive always read that as cant exit underneath the passenger compartment, ie if you looked from above the car and drew a line around the passenger compartment, it has to come out past that line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mof Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I was told the VIRM/LVV said it had to terminate at least 150mm away from a passenger compartment opening? Just checked VIRM and couldn't find that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 urban myths/old wives tales etc. its not in the rules. they are so prevalent though, sometimes its easier to just put the exhaust out the back, rather than deal with all the wof inspectors or police who think they heard from their mates neighbors uncle who bought a dog from a retired guy who worked at a testing station in the 70s, that an exhaust must exit 12 inches past the last opening window 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I'd be so keen on a bonnet exit zorst on the wag. Legal if it exits above roof height right? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 So what's the yarn with these brake test things? If one was to upgrade their 2K engine to a 3K (or 4K) engine, they would technically need to do at least the 3 cycle brake test (three stops from 100 km/h in two minutes at a average deceleration of no greater than 0.65 G). I have my doubts that a 3K would happily get from 0-100-0 three times in two minutes, would this make it fail? Or would it just be a case of 'that particular model of car also came from factory with 3K engines, no brake test is required'? (Would this also apply to driveshaft hoops?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muncie Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 With regards to exhaust I want to run a flowmaster exiting under the drivers door under normal conditions it will be capped and a quiet exhaust will be used running off the back of it. Is this OK? I love a bit of noise and free flow at the track but on the street I'd rather hear the radio. Will be certified for the V8 so don't want to build it then have to chop it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTorque Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Wof exhaust rules Reason for rejection... The exhaust system is so constructed or modified that its operation or effectiveness can be readily interfered with, eg the driver is able to interfere with the exhaust system by operating a manual switch, or the exhaust is fitted with a flame thrower kit. IMO of you need tools to make it loud then it will pass a wof 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Yup as long as they are bolts / capscrews and not wingnuts holding the caps on you'll be right. Also pretty sure a 3K can still get a car up to 100km/h three times in two minutes. If not, why is that your upgrade preference? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 'that particular model of car also came from factory with 3K engines, no brake test is required'? (Would this also apply to driveshaft hoops?) Unfortunately not. I looked into this when I was considering converting my AE92 to 4AGE Waddup power, using all factory AE92 gear but it'd still require a cert as the car itself came factory with a 4AF, completely regardless of the fact that the same model car came EFI from factory and all the parts would drop straight in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japawagons Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Or would it just be a case of 'that particular model of car also came from factory with 3K engines, no brake test is required'? (Would this also apply to driveshaft hoops?) This never applies. Ever. Lvv certification is completely passed on what you car originally was fitted with. If it has been modified from that then this test will be applied... So if you fit a 3k to a 2k car it will need to be certified and past the appropriate tests... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Good thing I have the mighty 4K and will never be in need of moar powers Yetchh (I think) put a 2L in his 121 or something and just had to get a letter from Mazda saying that the motor came out in 121s also or something when he went in for compliance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Even full bolt in conversions need the all the hoop-lah for cert. (ie, 318, where 265 once lived) even though the cars were identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japawagons Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I'm pretty sure that's not gravy... If a 121 in would effectively need a Certificate of Description saying that cars with 2.0L were identical in every other way. However LVV still don't take that into account. its all about what that car in particular was originally fitted with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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