igor Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I've got an ADO16 that last ran in the winter of '96. Hasn't been cranked over since '99. Prob should check it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tortron Posted May 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2017 at best you only have the engine block left (at worst the whole car is left) 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostchips Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 hours ago, mk2panelvan said: Yep oil level has gone up. Spark plugs are on pretty tight, haven't managed to get them off yet, been spraying crc around them. Any tips to get these off? Also can't rotate the fan at all. It is possible there is water in your oil now. A guy asked me to find why his car was misfiring. Out of habit i checked the oil, was overflowing. After the oil drained out the dipstick a lot of green water came out. A whole piston and rod was lodged in the water jacket. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 The fact that the oil level has gone up would indicate, as rustisize says, that there is something such as coolant down there in it. Oil floats on water, so try drop the drain plug (you should be doing this anyway as the old oil needs to be swapped out after sitting so long). If the coolant has made it into the oil then you either have a leaking gasket (head gasket most likely) or some sort of corrosion hole in the block. If the car only had water instead of proper coolant, then your engine could well be rooted after sitting for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 as was mentioned but kinda glossed over 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF. the acetone things out the atf and lets it get in all the gaps before evaporating off and leaving the oil behind, used this method over a few days on my frozen up 18rgeu. freed up real nice and now runs mint with great compression. used a breaker bar to unstick it. the starter motor will burn out if you crank it but the motor cant turn. also with the bar you can feel how the engine feels as you slowly rotate it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Actually I have a 265 hemi that I should try this on...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2panelvan Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 On 5/16/2017 at 19:31, Fliboi said: as was mentioned but kinda glossed over 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF. the acetone things out the atf and lets it get in all the gaps before evaporating off and leaving the oil behind, used this method over a few days on my frozen up 18rgeu. freed up real nice and now runs mint with great compression. used a breaker bar to unstick it. the starter motor will burn out if you crank it but the motor cant turn. also with the bar you can feel how the engine feels as you slowly rotate it. Got the spark plugs out. How much of the acetone/ATF mix do I put down each hole? I'm going to change the oil after doing that, then use breaker bar on crank. Is the crank down the right hand side by the wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mof Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Crank=Crankshaft m8 Big pulley at the bottom, front of the engine. Turn it clockwise as you look at it from the front (anticlockwise to the vehicle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Bet the clutch is stuck too. Jack up the rear so the wheels are off the ground 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 38 minutes ago, tortron said: Bet the clutch is stuck too. Jack up the rear so the wheels are off the ground Won't matter unless it is in gear or you try to put it in gear. With the clutch pedal out it us fully engaged anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Oh yeah I'm in the habit of leaving stuff in gear due to British brakes 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Can you clarify exactly what car you have? If your crank is down by the wheel you miiiiiiiiight not have the Escort MkII Panelvan that I initially assumed and perhaps you've got some FWD thingamebob. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2panelvan Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, kyteler said: Can you clarify exactly what car you have? If your crank is down by the wheel you miiiiiiiiight not have the Escort MkII Panelvan that I initially assumed and perhaps you've got some FWD thingamebob. Its a 1981 Mk2 Ford Escort Panelvan. But I got the engine swapped from the original 1300 to a 1600 sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 OK, sweet. As assumed. Crank is in the centre, the big pulley below the fan, a belt should run from the pulley on the crank to the fan pulley. The crank pulley should have a nut on it that you can fit a socket on and then wiggle gently. Keep in mind. Gently. Don't wail on the thing just try ease it around a little at a time after you've let penetrating oil/atf soak into the bores a while. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2panelvan Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, kyteler said: OK, sweet. As assumed. Crank is in the centre, the big pulley below the fan, a belt should run from the pulley on the crank to the fan pulley. The crank pulley should have a nut on it that you can fit a socket on and then wiggle gently. Keep in mind. Gently. Don't wail on the thing just try ease it around a little at a time after you've let penetrating oil/atf soak into the bores a while. Ok - thanks heaps for that. Do you know what kind of oil I should buy? What is the difference between Manual Transmission Oil and Auto Transmission fluid - can I use either? And do you know how much to put down each hole? I've sprayed a bit of CRC down there for the moment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Get a 500ml of shitty ATF and just squirt some in, it's not an exact science. Maybe 50ml? Let it sit for a week or so with it in and then put some more in and do the same waiting, basically you want to give it time to get past the rust that's potentially sticking the rings to the bores and allow for at least a little lubrication when you try move it. The biggest thing is to not get impatient and try move it too early. However you do it or whatever you use, once you've got it moving again you'll want to drain the oil and re-fill with fresh stuff before you fire it up to run it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2panelvan Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 Cool, will do, thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Another option is put it in 4th gear, and rock it back and forward, instead of turning the crank via a socket 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Funny a guy I know has a MK1 with a 1600 and it sat for a few years and the engine nipped up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 yup what kyteler said, although ill add, its my understanding that the acetone is essensial, as this is what things the oil (the oil is what will free it up) enough to get down into the rusty rings and then evaporates off. as ky said, dont wail on the crank bolt, youll end up stripping the thread and thats not fun, just give it a good go with a whole lot of patience, it should come free. it took me around a week. theirs no exact amount to put down the bores. i just kept it topped up enough that i could see it was above the crown of the piston as in my mind this meant itll be slowly draining though. im not sure why it had to be ATF. MTF may work, but cheep nasty ATF is only like 10 bucks a bottle so i never really thought about it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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