EFI_LC Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Ok I have pretty much a shell, roll cage and suspension and a (yuk) locked diff. I can't tell ya much more about the bits and pieces abut I am told it's pretty oldschool setup and I will get the front sorted but it will be learn as I go fitting the engine and box I have bought for it. Ok I need help with diff to fit and not too heavy. I want LSD which will do for 200hp I want to make a good job as I will re-rego it when done as it it has rego on hold. Maybe I should have put this on a project build but will do it when I start putting the motor and box in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLUX Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Estima f series diff if you don't mind shortening it. Can fit a torsen center from an altezza too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin'joe Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Estima f series diff if you don't mind shortening it. Can fit a torsen center from an altezza too this ^^^ any diff will need some fabrication, and or shortening, although, with the widebody kit, you could tuck FWD rims under it. if you handy enough, turret the rear so you can fit coil overs on top of the diff, and tie turrets into the rear transverse bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpr Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Isn't much around that is the same width as the stock diff. So as above, F is probably a good option, as plenty of factory and aftermarket lsd's. just shortening axles is a drama. Rn25 hilux is about same width, but will be too heavy for your taste. plus super hard to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFI_LC Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 Well that sounds better than my option in the garage I think, a Borg Warner Nissan R31 Now to find one, I assume F is Toyota Diff model not the car model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpr Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Yeah F code diff. F is the crown wheel size. (7.5"). hilux is G (8") stock kp is either a X or U code 5.7"? or 6" depending on year. alot of them have irs and live versions. but the lsd centers usually swap between live and irs carriers. some need slight mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLUX Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Pickapart is always a good source of estimas. Some of them have disk brakes too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFI_LC Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 Cheers kpr, I remember someone saying it was a 6" in mine but that may have been conjecture. I will have to check them out when i get that far but this has given me some good info. I do have a few other questions: What fuel pressure do the Gen 5 3S-GE Manual tezza engines run? What clutch setup do they run, a dual pressure type or single plate? What problems have people found fitting these engines into the Starlet? What sort of Duty Cycle do the Injectors run at normally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Libero gt would be worth measuring, and can take an evo plate centre with a bit of work. People probably throw these away? The early 4wd mirages were also solid rear and 4x114. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I do have a few other questions: 1. What fuel pressure do the Gen 5 3S-GE Manual tezza engines run? 2. What clutch setup do they run, a dual pressure type or single plate? 3. What problems have people found fitting these engines into the Starlet? 4. What sort of Duty Cycle do the Injectors run at normally? 1. 60psi or there abouts, with a returnless fuel line. So you need an aftermarket FPR. 2. From factory they have a dual mass flywheel which is a big heavy shitsack (15+kg) but light aftermarket options available. 3. It's a tall and wide engine with a gearbox that doesnt fit the tunnel. So pretty much everything's a problem, for a starlet. A 4age/T50 will be about 5% of the ballache to get fitted and running. Beams starlet has been done before, I think there's a project on here or toyspeed. But not something I'd want to do! 4. Not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoozin Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 spanners had a Beams KP project... what actually happened to that joker? Moved overseas or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Yeah something like that, ended up parting out his project I believe. There was another one though, a race car... But it needed the firewall pushed back a fair bit, tunnel enlarged, drip tray for windscreen cut right back, and I think he had to get rid of the Brake MC and booster from the engine bay to make everything fit. I think it was only possible to take the motor and box out from underneath as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Sounds ideal for a race car though? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpr Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 4age is best 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Yea problem with a 4age is they only make 4hp. But yea agree with Roaman beams are a pretty big 4 banger, tall heads and deep sump. If you are capable with cutting the car to bits and welding some bits back in it's wont be a problem to make it fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 rookie - the best race car is one thats easy to fix. unless youve got a team of mechanics! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Yea problem with a 4age is they only make 4hp. Yes but everyone knows 4ages make the most fun hp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truenotch Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 As everyone else has said, the biggest issue is how tall the 3S is and the size of the J160 box. You'll need to do a decent amount of cutting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truenotch Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Here you go - the A to Z of beamsing a KP: //oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/topic/28207-spanners-sp60-beams-bugeye-starlet/?fromsearch=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Clearly the thinking man's engine of choice is 1GGTE 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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