Popular Post keltik Posted October 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2022 Posting a thread here because access to the oldschool hive mind is pretty helpful. I've got plans to charter a yacht and go sailing around Greece for a month in 2024. Partly as a throwback to the family sailing holidays I had as a kid, partly as one big adventure with my dad before hes too old to want to do it again and partly as a way to get married in style. To accomplish this, I need either a RYA Dayskipper or Yacht master certificate... Or an international certificate of competency. To get the ICC, you basically do a theory exam on navigation and rules, radio exam with a DSC VHF then a practical exam handling a sailboat for a variety of exercises. Dad's already way overqualified but I can't share a boat with him or one of us won't make it back alive. Probably me tbh, he's pretty fit Chartering a boat in NZ is ludicrously expensive so getting some practice for the exam was going to be a challenge. So I bought a boat. Poor wizard nearly had a hernia dragging this thing over the Napier-Taupo. From what I know, it's a Ross 780 built sometime in the 90s. The hull is glass over wood. The Ross was a pretty popular trailer sailer designed for a good balance of racing performance and cruising ability. The other boat I looked at was an Elliot 780 which is more racing oriented. This one was a project boat needing some love, so the previous owner has painted most of it and started on the repairs... I don't plan on a full restoration - just gonna make it suit my needs. If I can kit it out to be able to spend a few days pesting around lake Taupo or tow it up to bay of islands, I'll be happy. 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post keltik Posted October 28, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2022 First problem encountered was where to park it... On the driveway will do for now but I might be able to fit it down the opposite side of the house once I get a couple trees removed. The interior is pretty bare but everything needed for sailing seems to work and I haven't found any structural issues yet. Managed to get it out sailing on lake Rotoiti the day after I got it home. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 And here's where I'll list the problems I'm currently trying to solve. 1) Depth sounder and speed log don't work. Tempted to bin them both and install a fishfinder chartplotter combo. 2) The previous owner has been a little liberal with his painting so I need to figure out the best way to remove epoxy paint from stainless steel hardware. 3) The trailer leaf spring rocker can rotate too far as the mounting bracket used isn't right for it. This causes the rear leaf spring to fall out of the slipper at high amounts of articulation like when going into my driveway 4) The tyres are perished to hell and the rims ain't looking very roadworthy. So I'm tossing up whether to swap hubs and convert to 4x100 which I have lots of spare wheels for (and all my other trailers use) or do I just buy new tires and rims to suit the 5x4-1/2 pcd. 5) The outboard gear case is leaking oil through the propshaft seal. Should be an easy fix... But the tilt mechanism is seized solid and looks like it's going to be a mission to free it up. 6) The on board electrics are shit, need some deep cycle batteries and a small solar charging setup. Not sure about how to properly vent the batteries when they will be under the seats in the cabin. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty360 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Looks awesome, a good mate had a 22ft keeler back in the day and shit we had some fun in it. Random question but I've got the flash cards for the nz boat master course, lights, nav markers etc if you want them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Shit yeh. A lot of childhood memories on yachts. We had a Tasman 20 when I was a kid and then upsized to a Gazelle 26 which the old man still has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tele29 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Awesome little tub My brother had a Ross 830 and a 930, now he has Farr 1020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAD Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Love this. We did a 6 day intro to sailing/competent crew course in BoI last summer and it was fantastic. 3 days of tuition followed by 3 days of just tooling around by ourselves. It was in a little 70's Davidson 20' centreboarder and it was so much fun pulling up the board and anchoring knee-deep in the bays. It's sparked a desire to do more, I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for inspo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB8-TypeR Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Those wheels are scary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted December 24, 2022 Author Share Posted December 24, 2022 Started chipping away at some repairs. Got rid of the scabby hazey hatches covered in rock hard masking tape. Replaced with; Plenty of time spent with some wd40 scraping petrified making tape off various stainless deck fittings. Then got the missus down below to start painting the sides of the berths, put an epoxy coating on the bilge to stop stuff soaking in; Started varnishing some of the wood trim too Next task is to sort out some wiring and hook up my new sounder, chartplotter and solar panel. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted December 24, 2022 Author Share Posted December 24, 2022 Had some outboard issues. With my bracket at full height, the prop still touched the water when under sail. Thats unnecessary drag! So I could've moved the bracket up a few inches and figured out how to deal with the holes in the transom... Or just swap it out for a short shaft version of the same motor and sell my one on. The new motor hasn't had much love. Time for a new impeller A new thermostat and plugs Don't think this motor had ever been apart, I did my very best but still managed to snap one bolt and spend the next hour sorting that out. Finally got all the salt scraped out and rinsed clean. I plan on taking the power head out at some point and touching up the paint. In the meantime it got a good long run in a wheelie bin full of salt-away and now the cooling water is flowing much better. Starts first pull too with the new plugs. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Probably done now, but you could use a caramel wheel on that tape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Is that outboard 2-stroke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted December 24, 2022 Author Share Posted December 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Vintage Grumble said: Is that outboard 2-stroke? I'm not happy about it 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mof Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Hey what does your rear spring slipper look like? I don't suppose the trailer might have once had a double eye rocker type? That might explain the long rocker bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted December 24, 2022 Author Share Posted December 24, 2022 Yeah that's exactly what it used to have. Not sure of the benefits of either style? Do I shorten the bracket or go back to double eye springs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anglia4 Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Double eye rocker type is quieter when it’s banging about over bumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 Spent a day out on the water yesterday. Still had absolutely fuck all variable wind so failed at sailing. New motor runs well but discovered at low power settings, the stern of the boat doesn't squat into the water as much... so it's pretty easy for a wave or two to get the propeller shallow enough to suck down some air. Annoying. The trailer springs did their flippy articulation trick which caused all the weight to come off the front axle and lock the wheels under braking. Annoying. It's going to be hard to mount my fish finder transducer in a good spot. More experimentation required before I'm 100% sure where it needs to go, thinking it will go under the transom just ahead of the rudder but want to make sure the rudder won't interfere with the image. The lack of self tailing winches is a massive pain in the arse for 2 handed sailing. Keeping my eye on the tard for some second hand ones. The autopilot doesn't work. Powers on but wont pick up a compass heading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post keltik Posted January 2, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2023 Ripped the autopilot apart and found a broken coil wire on the compass module. Spent an hour with tweezers tying a single strand of wire on to extend it so it would reach the solder pad. Then used a multimeter to check all the coils and found 2 more broken connections. Spent an hour trying to repair those then remembered life is frighteningly finite and smashed it with a hammer so I wouldn't be tempted to waste any more time on it Ordered a new one from the interwebs. 7 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post keltik Posted January 2, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2023 Floorboards came up nice, just need some trim to hold them down. Took the grab rails off the coach roof and removed the white paint and petrified masking tape. So at least some progress is being made 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltik Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 Trying to solve my trailer suspension issues. After much head scratching, I think I've worked out the problem. The trailer chassis was previously fitted for 50mm eye to eye springs with a standard 1390mm span and an equalizer rocker. It seems the standard spacing for eye to slipper tandem setups is closer to 1470mm. Because that's been crammed into the narrower space between the crossmembers (circled orange) the spring slippers don't sit in the right spot. So even if I moved the rocker pivot closer to the chassis, it would hit the crossmember located there... Which I don't really want to notch as it would significantly weaken it. It would also exacerbate the issue with the spring slippers contact points. So the fix is going to be swapping back to double eye springs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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