Yowzer Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Yep nyloc is legit. Ya can chuck some locktite on too if you really wanna but I never do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I prefer castles so have a split pin assortment in stock. /Ling 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.H. Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Nyloc is fine, no need for loctite as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Loctite says on the bottle is may attack some plastics. So I wouldnt reccomend using it with a nyloc. I prefer the split pin because nyloc looses its grip after a few times being done up/undone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Bench bleeding a master cylinder, what do I need to have in the ports for it to work? Plastic plugs (not threaded just dust things) that come with the unit or will there be shitloads of pressure when pumping it. Keen to get on to this tomorrow so just seeing if I need to plug it properly or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Usual bench bleed method is to make some short pipes that screw into the outlets and go into the reservoir below the fluid level so you pump fluid around and around until you get air bubbles out of the cylinder 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Yeah watched a youtube video where they used some kit with fittings and hose to do that. I have bugger all bits lying around to achieve that. Seemed like a good method though as could do it in car. Wonder what pick-a-fart might have. Thanks its on the potential plans list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kws Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Is bench bleeding necessary? I've always just sucked fluid through with a vacuum bleeder (cheap hand pump type), haven't had an issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Haven't started with a dry system before, was just going off what was recommended. Something about having "fun" getting the air out when not bench bled. I have a vacuum bleeder, would that negate the need to bench bleed do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, Bling said: Yeah watched a youtube video where they used some kit with fittings and hose to do that. I have bugger all bits lying around to achieve that. Seemed like a good method though as could do it in car. Wonder what pick-a-fart might have. Thanks its on the potential plans list. Probably easiest to grab 2 pipes off a master cyl at pap, just snip them off long enough that you can bend them up and over into the reservoir If it was me I'd try the vac bleeder first just to avoid getting brake fluid all over the place if you can worst case you can still do the pipes into the reservoir method once it's in the car 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 From memory I've only bothered to bench bleed once or twice ever, regular old "pump it up hold it down " bleeding has always worked for me 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Thanks for that, will chuck it in and try with bleeder first. A good plan A, and leaves a plan B as you say. Really don't want brake fluid everywhere as it's a tight spot to try clean up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kws Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Recently swapped out the master on my corolla with one that was completely dry, even with ABS it sucked fluid through fine. Same with the one on the Marina (resleeved, completely dry), but thats a single circuit system lol. I'd try vacuum it through since you have a vac bleeder. Just hook it to the closest brake to the master and suck suck suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.H. Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 I recently rebuilt the master on my landy and just put it back on and bled it as normal, there should be no need to bench bleed a new master cylinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 The need is that it makes the job a hell of a lot easier when you have the fluid behind the seals to create the pressure required to pump it through. Dry seals don't seal very well and it can take a bloody long time to get going. A fresh rebuild is different because you have presumably used fluid or rubber grease during assembly and is not comparible to a cylinder that has been sitting on a shelf for six years. There have been times I have regretted not bench bleeding a cylinder first. There have also been times they work near on straight away. I usually just dump some juice in the top and pump it till it jizzes all over the floor and that works good enough to bolt on. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87creepin Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 More nylock nut spam Just wondering if stainless steel nuts are = to tensile class 8.8, I'm looking at 80nm for m14x1.5 and 50nm for m10x1.25. I cant find the answers online. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 https://www.assda.asn.au/blog/221-strengths-of-stainless-fasteners#:~:text=The vast majority of stainless,tensile strength of 500 MPa). some info here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg193 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Bling said: Bench bleeding a master cylinder, what do I need to have in the ports for it to work? Plastic plugs (not threaded just dust things) that come with the unit or will there be shitloads of pressure when pumping it. Keen to get on to this tomorrow so just seeing if I need to plug it properly or not. I needed to bench bleed the new starlet one before it would work properly. I think I just used some M10 fine pitch bolts in the outlet ports, slightly cracked loose so that the air could get past but not a huge amount of the brake fluid. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 I think i'll go with a combo of jizzing fluid all over my bench, then putting it in under vacuum bleed. I still need to fabricate some brackets, but i'm being optimistic at getting the master in tomorrow. Thanks for all the tips gents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Oil, Does it matter a fuck if you mix different oils of the same grade? Say castrol 10-40, with penrith full synth 10-40, and some other 10-40? (I guess more so that one of them is synthetic) I wanna use up some leftovers/do an oil change for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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