KKtrips Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 any of you chaps want to magic me an 'acceptable alternative' to bracing the roof to the box? Something something use the twistlocks and lock it into the container? Then if you ever put a second story on then you can remove the existing roof of the first container and just biff it onto the top of the second container. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Cleats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelies Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 yep kk i wanted to twist lock it to the footings too but the engineers didnt want a bar of it. it seems biggest mind fuck of this project has been that you can't use simple ideas outside the norm because it costs joe bloggs too much to prove they're legit. sucks when the idea is widely known to be a no-brainer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Jeeze - they use those twist locks to hold together stacks of containers on ships which rock and roll like Ozzy on a cocaine bender (with cross bracing of course) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kicker Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 ^I was impressed with the way the containers on the Rena held together 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durty Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 lined with EPS sandwich freezer panel and that's it. container already painted in 2pack, not keen for any more hot work. should have got 2 x 20'ers! there is more welding to do on it anyway, unfortunately. needs tags on top for roof bracing but they couldnt be done pre-paint as they made the box over-height for transport. and welding to steel plates in the footings. any of you chaps want to magic me an 'acceptable alternative' to bracing the roof to the box? Magnets? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Just send them that photo with parts informatiom as a technical submission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Yeah, I don't see why they aren't just automatically accepted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombsquad Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I dont see why your bothering with footings at all, surely as a box it falls under the same category as a portacom or carport and a doesn't require building consent as its not actually fixed to the ground. To me the whole point in a container house is to retain that "transportabiltiy" otherwise you may aswell just build a regular house with corrugated steel walls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLUX Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Twistlocks will hold 20t of container hung under another one fine, trust me I used to stevedore and cylinders will back me up. Tell the injineerz to ring me Fold up some reo bar to twistlock shape and cast in concrete to keep them happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombsquad Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Twistlocks will hold 20t of container hung under another one fine, trust me I used to stevedore and cylinders will back me up. Tell the injineerz to ring me Twistlocks will take 60 tonne suspended weight if im not mistaken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteretep Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 stolen from reddit, thought it looked pretty cool. I like how they kept the numbers on it 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubastreet Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I dont see why your bothering with footings at all, surely as a box it falls under the same category as a portacom or carport and a doesn't require building consent as its not actually fixed to the ground. To me the whole point in a container house is to retain that "transportabiltiy" otherwise you may aswell just build a regular house with corrugated steel walls... portacoms are only allowed without consent if they're used on site to support the construction of a building etc which has been granted consent. you can't just throw a portacom/container on a bit of land, dig a longdrop and live in the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubastreet Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I dont see why your bothering with footings at all, surely as a box it falls under the same category as a portacom or carport and a doesn't require building consent as its not actually fixed to the ground. To me the whole point in a container house is to retain that "transportabiltiy" otherwise you may aswell just build a regular house with corrugated steel walls... portacoms are only allowed without consent if they're used on site to support the construction of a building etc which has been granted consent. you can't just throw a portacom/container on a bit of land, dig a longdrop and live in the box. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 yep kk i wanted to twist lock it to the footings too but the engineers didnt want a bar of it. it seems biggest mind fuck of this project has been that you can't use simple ideas outside the norm because it costs joe bloggs too much to prove they're legit. sucks when the idea is widely known to be a no-brainer. This seems to be more of a common problem in nz. Shame. They ( those pencil pushers in head office) are all a bit paranoid and will do anything to cover their arses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteretep Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 tbh, I understand where the councils are coming from, theres a whole bunch of factors which would determine whether something is suitable over the long term etc that making a special case for one person just doesnt make sense time wise. I have dealt with a bit of this stuff before regarding other law makers etc and the time it can take up is crazy. If they did take special cases all the time, then we would all be here whinging that the councils take too long get anything done So basically I agree with steve, can it just sit on posts and not be connected to the container at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I think common sense and good logic seems to get ignored these days. But yeah- they cant start making special cases without a shit load of work. Its a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRWEST Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 If they did take special cases all the time, then we would all be here whinging that the councils take too long get anything done like we all do now?? lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteretep Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I probably came off completely on the councils side, but I am just looking at it from the other perspective. Common sense and logic dont always prevail these days unfortunately like we all do now?? lol well it would only get worse haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickity Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 The container could fall under the same category as a carport or portacom, but neither of those are consented for residential habitation, so it could only be used for storage. And portacoms are generally issued limited consents for the duration of the construction project, so you'd have to keep trying to get renewed consent on your house... Keep in mind that the council does have to cover it's ass, because they're the ones we'll all be blaming if they ok something, theres an earthquake, the container rolls down the hill, and someone dies. Everyone would be jumping up and down yelling about how they could be so irresponsible blah blah blah. And I don't think you want to dwell on how much it would cost to apply for a consent if they had to have liability insurance to cover unproven methods. Unfortunately, the reality of trying to do things on a limited budget, especially when it comes to the structural side, is that you can't get too experimental. You have to go with "tried and true". Experimental is for ambitious architects with plenty of cash and big ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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