Honda Ass Dragger Posted February 8, 2010 Posted February 8, 2010 Haha... I suppose I could run with no cover - it would confuse most people. Can run no vvti easy enough, just need to remove solenoid and fit adjustable cam wheels... Which can be done if the earlier wheels are the same, but I haven't compared them yet. Hey Marku have you considered using your Link to do fual and ignition then using an aftermaket cam controller like a Camcon to do the cam phasing? http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/produ ... camcon.htm I thinking it could be a better soultion rather then removing the vvti allows you retain it plus use your exsitng link Quote
Truenotch Posted February 8, 2010 Author Posted February 8, 2010 I've thought about things like that, and am going to do some experimentation, but will likely end up upgrading to G4 link. I've also thought about whether the Gen3 cams will fit in the beams head... After a quick measure of the lobes and bearing caps it seems possible, but I haven't pulled enough off the beams to be able to measure the whole cam. If that works I'll run no VVTi and adjustable cam pulleys for now. Quote
Simon Posted February 8, 2010 Posted February 8, 2010 I reckon try shit. People make a lot of assumptions based on what people have told them rather than what they have done. Try it. If it doesn't work, do it different. Quote
Spencer Posted February 8, 2010 Posted February 8, 2010 the cam definately wont fit on the vvti side. Quote
Simon Posted February 8, 2010 Posted February 8, 2010 Dead etc Iv finished exam now. Can come in after work if you need help man. Quote
Vintage Grumble Posted February 8, 2010 Posted February 8, 2010 I know nothing about 3sge's, so will post a pretty pic: Quote
Truenotch Posted February 8, 2010 Author Posted February 8, 2010 ^ Yum. Spence - what's different under there that won't let it fit? I haven't tried pulling the cam wheels + front bearing caps/cover off yet to have a decent look. Quote
Spencer Posted February 8, 2010 Posted February 8, 2010 its the front bearing race different size as far as I remember, I had a measure up when mike-e had his spare head lying around. Quote
Truenotch Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 What'd you measure up against? They look fairly similar in pictures... It's a bit of an effort to remove to girdle for proper measurement though. Quote
Roman Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Hey Marku have you considered using your Link to do fual and ignition then using an aftermaket cam controller like a Camcon to do the cam phasing? http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/produ ... camcon.htm I thinking it could be a better soultion rather then removing the vvti allows you retain it plus use your exsitng link That wont work, camcon and similar can only modify an existing signal, not make a new one. Quote
Truenotch Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 its the front bearing race different size as far as I remember, I had a measure up when mike-e had his spare head lying around. This is correct... had a measure just before.... Which brings me to a new problem / new fuck up..... I pulled the VVTi pulley apart and now have no clue about how it's supposed to go together - 3 x helical gears to mesh and a big spring with a plate behind it... which also has adjustment. didn't realize until afterwards that the hex head on the outside was a plug, and that it all came off together. Gah. It's pretty cool though! Figured out how the pulley works with it's oil chambers and crazy gearing set up. Simple, yet complicated - but effective. Quote
Simon Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 its the front bearing race different size as far as I remember, I had a measure up when mike-e had his spare head lying around. This is correct... had a measure just before.... Which brings me to a new problem / new fuck up..... I pulled the VVTi pulley apart and now have no clue about how it's supposed to go together - 3 x helical gears to mesh and a big spring with a plate behind it... which also has adjustment. didn't realize until afterwards that the hex head on the outside was a plug, and that it all came off together. Gah. It's pretty cool though! Figured out how the pulley works with it's oil chambers and crazy gearing set up. Simple, yet complicated - but effective. There will be a way. They do it in the factory. I reckon assemble it off the shaft. And put it on all as one. Can at least give it a go. Real reason for my post is happy 1111th post. Quote
mikuni Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 VVTi is just cam phasing isn't it? If you have the variable cam gear off, why not just measure it up to bolt on some custom cam gears? Should be able to get some of those knocked up for pretty cheap. Spence hates me. Quote
Spencer Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Yes I do Defeats the point of running this thing, just run the stock computer. Bet your car will be faster with stock computer and VVTi, than with link and locked cam timing Quote
mikuni Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Oh shit, do you still have all the stock origi computer and loom? I hadn't realised this, despite the fact that I think you told me this on Saturday. Quote
Truenotch Posted February 9, 2010 Author Posted February 9, 2010 Stock comp is millions of work... Will upgrade to G4 if I want to run it propperly - which will most likely happen. It would be ideal to have propper VVTi, 4 coils etc all going. Quote
Spencer Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 No way its just some wiring! hardly mind blowing. Oh and a decent airbox. i know its heaps of coin, but G4 all the way! You should save up and get the better one with 8 injector drivers, then your motor is future proof. Outboard injectors are free power as I said the other day Quote
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