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[cletus 38,244]

1 hour ago, Bling said:

Bit of a random seat belt question, to tag along with the above. I have the seat belt "droppers" that suspend the belt at shoulder height (due to pillarless car). Can I paint these without causing a stir? Someone has "camo'd" one of them, and i'd like to paint it a more appropriate colour. It's basically a metal dropper with textured plastic coating and is fully factory spec. The plan is to also have all the of webbing replaced because old belts are a nope.jpg.

Should be ok , theres only one place in nz that can re web belts legally at the moment, I think there was a link a couple of pages ago 

[cletus 38,244]

1 hour ago, MACKAZ said:

@cletus Can the chassis end of the engine mount have the threads tapped into them, or do they have to be bolts and nuts with spring washers and a minimum of 2 threads projecting?

These are what I'm using, GU Patrol TD42T. 

Do you mean thread the chassis?  Or the bit in the picture?  

If you mean the chassis then yes you could if it was thick enough and you use the right size bolts and lock washers etc

[Beaver 8,570]

Bolt on wheel spacers. Max 20mm (as per the spacers content of the lvvta standard) or max 30mm (as per the adaptor content of the lvvta standard)? Pretty sure the standard talks about spacers as slip on type (which need to be secured to the hub) , and adaptors as proper bolt on ones yeh? So a bolt on spacer is considered as an adaptor in the standard.

Please say 30mm...

[cletus 38,244]

Correct. 30mm max for adaptors 

 

Dont buy cheap ones 

[Beaver 8,570]

Beauty. Any recommendations? Or just stick with a reputable shop and use common sense etc.

[cletus 38,244]

Znoelli.co.nz are the only ones that have been consistently good, they are made in nz  

[Bling 20,760]

2 hours ago, cletus said:

Should be ok , theres only one place in nz that can re web belts legally at the moment, I think there was a link a couple of pages ago 

Ah didn't know that. Had my last one done at Fiddymont Seatbelts. I'll go look back a few pages cheers.

Edit: may have been my link? lol

[SiRge 601]

@cletus retrofitting another cars subframe to an older car. Is it easier for the certifier to ensure its safe by cutting and changing the subframe to fit the car, or cutting the car body to fit the subframe (it's no more than a tissue box-sized hump required) 

At first I was thinking reshaping the subframe, but now looking at it, probably keeping the subframe in tact as much as factory probably makes more sense from a rigidity pov

I haven't engaged a certifier yet, but this was the last thing on the list to prove this direction is plausible. 

[cletus 38,244]

Would really depend on what sort of car/subframe/ area of the body you are talking, but if it's only a single layer panel like a floor or firewall section then the body would be better to modify. 

[SiRge 601]

The area is the bottom and centre of the firewall just left of the clutch pedal. The car is a Honda N360 (about the size of a classic mini), the subframe is from an 80s civic/crx.

[rusty360 983]

What's the go with putting 3 point seat belts in the back of a wagon? I'm all good at the moment as junior is still using his car seat with built In harness so a lap belt is all good. but not sure what I'm gunna do at booster seat time. 

[cletus 38,244]

Pretty tricky in a EH from memory,  I think the pillar is too far forward or too small ? I'd have to have a look you might have to put it below the window 

[rusty360 983]

1 hour ago, cletus said:

Pretty tricky in a EH from memory,  I think the pillar is too far forward or too small ? I'd have to have a look you might have to put it below the window 

Yep eh wagon, the correct place is prob right in the middle of the side rear window. I'm picking you cant mount on the top of the wheel arches like the old days? Even below the side window would only be the height of the low back seat. Think I've got the lvvta seatbelt info on my work laptop so will have a look there to.

 

 

[cletus 38,244]

There are allowances for old cars if you cant get the anchorages in the allowable area, as generally it's still safer to have a seatbelt in the wrong area than not have one at all  

[shizzl 1,913]

Can a driveshaft have adaptor fitted at the diff end? Like 30mm spacer (like a wheel spacer/adaptor) that has the eccentric rings or whatever machined into them? 

Saves having to cut up 2 good driveshafts if I can have an adaptor machined up. 

 

I did one many years ago in a mk2 escort with 4age and k50 box, te70 driveshaft, just machined up an adaptor.. But I dold it before I got it on the Rd.. 

[WhangareiKE70 502]

On 19/09/2020 at 14:53, shizzl said:

Can a driveshaft have adaptor fitted at the diff end? Like 30mm spacer (like a wheel spacer/adaptor) that has the eccentric rings or whatever machined into them? 

Saves having to cut up 2 good driveshafts if I can have an adaptor machined up. 

 

I did one many years ago in a mk2 escort with 4age and k50 box, te70 driveshaft, just machined up an adaptor.. But I dold it before I got it on the Rd.. 

Not a certifier, but my old Zuk had one to account for the suspension lift, and it was certified with the spacer noted on the cert plate. Pretty sure it is fairly common for lifted 4wds. 

However I imagine there are limitations on these in terms of construction , thickness, material etc. I think mine was an off the shelf part rather than custom made as it was anodized blue. So would pay to double check with an actual certifier/WOF person.

[shizzl 1,913]

I could anodize it matt black :'D 

[cletus 38,244]

Is it a spacer? Or an adapter to fit a mazda shaft onto the hunter diff via changing the pcd?

It's not something that is covered by the standard, the wording sort of suggests that you wouldn't be able to do it, as technically you are lengthening the shaft via a spacer, but the wording is intended to prevent someone cutting and joining a shaft incorrectly 

 

 

In my opinion if it's made out of a suitable material and is not too thick and has the right bolts with lock washers etc and it spigots into the driveshaft and pinion flange then it would be safe,  it's the same as a wheel spacer or adapter 

You might want to check with @KKtrips 

[cletus 38,244]

[KKtrips 22,891]

On 19/09/2020 at 14:53, shizzl said:

Can a driveshaft have adaptor fitted at the diff end? Like 30mm spacer (like a wheel spacer/adaptor) that has the eccentric rings or whatever machined into them?

 

1 hour ago, cletus said:

You might want to check with @KKtrips 

A driveshaft "adapter" between 2 different PCD's could be a problem, but a driveshaft "spacer" has been accepted before, as Clint says, providing they are suitably spigoted and made of a single suitable block of material with appropriate fasteners. l. I think we specified it is a maximum of 25mm in the draft engine drivetrain standard revision which is in the proof reading stage right now. I'll take a look tomorrow and see what it says.