davidian Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 yea well it would be nice if I could find one to come and have a look/chat, be it as it is I've gotta do a lot flying semi-blind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Have you spoken to one? They usually will come and have a look for a fee. Also if you are putting in a rack, there really isn't any reason not to do it properly, shortening racks and making tie rod extensions are pretty common place to get this issue right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidian Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Ive sent quite a few emails and phone calls to a couple of certifiers, as well as an engineer who does RHD conversions. Still haven't been able to get one to commit and come to look, so I'm kinda stuck. Bit anoyed about it TBH I really need to sort the steering to go on with the project, finalise mountings for other things etc. so I can (hopefully) come back and rectify any B/S issues that might arise, later. front hub diagram: http://www.aziaavto.kz/images/niva/21214_M/6.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 you wont have to get zero bumpsteer, it wil just have to be an 'acceptable' amount. LVVTA has not set what is an acceptable amount yet so i guess its mostly up to the certifier. you may already know, you will need a 1D category certifier for this, the ones I can think of are Mark Stokes, who I work for, hes quite busy at the moment and going away next month Neil Fraser Lance Walsh, although im not sure if hes still doing it at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 On my 131 I want to alter the front suspension setup slightly currently the setup is the same as a cortina/escort with the swaybar also acting as the radius arm. The factory abarth cars used a separate radius arm and the swaybar was bolted with droplinks to a tab welded on the top of the lower control arm. factory setup abarth setup Also what I have seen done on a few other 131 here in NZ is to chop the inboard end of the LCA off, drill it and tap it then screww in a rod end to give camber adjustment and a spherical bearing mount setup. I would probably go for a rod end/spherical bearing on the chassis end of the radius arm also to give addition adjustment/solid mounting. Given this is going on a "race car" with a logbook and authority card does this also need to go on the cert plate (which it already has for the supercharged engine and a few other things) if I do want to get the thing a wof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0R10N Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Clint/anyone else: What's the deal with rear anchoring points for seatbelts in pre-1990 cars imported from Japan? I have heard an unsettling rumour that the issue I had with complying my Rx-7 as a four seater now also holds true for other vehicles of that period with rear lap belts/no belts at all, e.g. Starions. so will I need to have new anchoring points engineered, and a cert fitted at exorbitant cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 If you have rear seats - you will need to have belts fitted and yes mounts will require a cert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Given this is going on a "race car" with a logbook and authority card does this also need to go on the cert plate (which it already has for the supercharged engine and a few other things) if I do want to get the thing a wof? to be 100% legal, yes it would have to be on the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 so will I need to have new anchoring points engineered, and a cert fitted at exorbitant cost? yep as KK said, has to be done. can be quite tricky as well in that era of sporty coupe cars as in some of them,there isnt anywhere easy to put the belt anchorage, because of the big rear windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0R10N Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 yep as KK said, has to be done. can be quite tricky as well in that era of sporty coupe cars as in some of them,there isnt anywhere easy to put the belt anchorage, because of the big rear windows. Sweet, thanks thing is, both of my Skylines had rear shoulder belts fitted without requiring new anchorage points, they were simply mounted to existing ones already present. so second question: if anchorage points for shoulder belts are already there, do those just get used instead? Maybe I'll need to take a look at a Starion already in the country/NZ-new to see how belts were fitted to the rear of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 if there is an unused factory anchorage, that can be used without a cert. you may find some older imports that have been here a long time have anchorages fitted and no cert- there was a time when this was allowed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 if there is an unused factory anchorage, that can be used without a cert.you may find some older imports that have been here a long time have anchorages fitted and no cert- there was a time when this was allowed Well... you may recall a while back I tried using the factory anchorage for a 2 to 3 point seatbelt swap. VTNZ said it required a cert, as I could not prove the third anchorage had been used in this car when it was imported. Local certer said that is technically true, but no certer would actually be that fussed. Not saying your wrong cletus, just a friendly warning to Ed to avoid super-duper anal VTNZs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camo_78 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 hey Cletus,quick question as i can never get a definite answer down here bolt on flares:cert job or not?? and does it matter wether they remain just bolted or does smoothing them into body change the definition of them?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 not a cert item unless you have cut the guard out underneath. however a lot of cars should be certed because of the mods required to fill the guards out though- wheel spacers, wide wheels etc here is a list of stuff that doesnt need cert http://lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplement ... eshold.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 avoid super-duper anal VTNZs are you talking about the kingsland branch by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 avoid super-duper anal VTNZs are you talking about the kingsland branch by any chance? It was the Henderson branch. I've known other people that have been there without issues, it may have just been that particular WOF dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKer Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 here is a list of stuff that doesnt need certhttp://lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplement ... eshold.pdf needs a password to open file? no stress, figure might be obvious stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cletus Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 hmm. shouldnt need a password its on www.lvvta.org.nz look for certification threshold schedule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 here is a list of stuff that doesnt need certhttp://lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplement ... eshold.pdf needs a password to open file? no stress, figure might be obvious stuff Works fine for me, you fruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Regarding WOF's, is there a minimum suspension travel rule? Or a minimum gap between arm and bump stop measurment? Also, are you able to modify bump stops? Or is it all at the discretion of the WOF man? Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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