Spencer Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I was waiting for that! I know how much you hate MS and I know how to somewhat tune a engine. If you are alone the feature is good enough to get your fuel table close and go driving quickly, then you can do some datalogs or get a buddy and go from there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 calm down man, autotune/calibrate whatever auto get your fuel table in a somewhat runnable state whatever you want to call it. not here to argue semantics about what the word tuning means exactly. 3.770 is just whatever was loaded onto the ecu which I bought over a year ago. What is so bad about it (or 3.830, apart from it seemingly being your arch nemesis's code)/whats better about using the ms2/extra code? not trying to provoke anything just not being an expert it seems like its ok on the outside, has spark and fuel tables etc. where I can seemingly change most things (and more) that I need to muck with to run my silly engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtailfred Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Spence, I don't hate M$ in general. I hate a whole lot of specific technical and social/political things about the product range and community behind it. If you solved them all, I could go back to being a big fan. But it's not legal to solve any of them anymore, and wasn't ever for half of them, so it is what it is, and will always be that. Hence FreeEMS. Freedom... That aside, calibration and tuning are distinct and different. In B&G firmware the line is somewhat blurred, and that's one of the technical things on my list of shit that's broken about it. Phil promoting it as "automatic tuning" is an insult to actual tuners who know their stuff. It may well be good enough for your needs, however I have the least faith in B&G firmware which is primarily written by a geriatric called Alfred Grippo and promoted by another geriatric called Lance AKA Admin-Nazi. ms2extra has a LOT more functionality, some of which is better thought out. It's also FAR more used in the real world. As such it's better tested and more support will be available from a wider group of people. B&G likely does not have the "incorporate AFR" option, which you should definitely use. If you want less support and are happy with what you have, then stick with it. I don't mind. The tune you develop won't necessarily be compatible with alternative firmwares, though. The main/normal/default firmware is ms2extra, NOT B&G. Swapping before developing a tune means less wasted energy if/when you find it does something badly or not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 well I havent really got any tune in it at this stage apart from the idle and I can copy the ignition map anyway so shouldnt be too big of a deal to switch this afternoon to the extra code 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Let me guess, you used autotune and the engine blew up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzurro Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Perfect. Better be lobbing the engine from the carpi in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rot808 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Wealthy mans handshakes for you when you arrive in this son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 You need to remind me to cut another s/c belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 Wealthy mans handshakes for you when you arrive in this son I wont be wealthy when I get there hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 So why did you pull it out? Or did I miss that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTERUS Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 So why did you pull it out? Or did I miss that Dat radiator be leaky son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 so he had to pull the whole motor out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Refer this post. //oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/topic/21854-testaments-74-fiat-124-coupe/?p=1262912 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 The belt is on its way. Good luck and God speed Tom. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTERUS Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 The belt is on its way. Good luck and God speed Tom. Oh man I look forward to fondling your belt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yetchh Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I must say, after meeting your 124 in person, sounds freakin awesome.. kind of like a half mclaren mercedes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 is that tacho right? doesnt sound like 3000 rpm at the start at definitely sounds sound like 7 grand at the end.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 pretty sure its about right, just it overshoots with sudden changes in rpm, was probably doing 2900ish rpm and maybe reved up to 5500/6000 so - but it's always done that even when it was standard. silly old veglia thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 That's awesome about the lead plugs! It's gone from... a very complicated problem that only has work arounds at best. To.... a simple problem that was easily fixed. Gotta love it when that happens, because most of the time it's the other way around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Is number 4 spark plug a pain to get out standard? horrible to do in my conversion against the firewall.Liking the set up though, very nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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