Sparkle Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 wouldnt you be better just biffing a 1600 in then? seem to be a peppy engine, not fast, but yuh. Would cost you fuck all too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sexychevette Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 just buy an fxgt. rofl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskynut Posted March 17, 2008 Author Share Posted March 17, 2008 It already has a xflow 1600 in it. Just wanted a little bit more reliability and performance. Thought 4age would be a good conversion. So many think its bad using anything but ford, but for what I would spend rebuilding my xflow (or pinto in my shed) I could put in a 4age and t50. Xflows tend to get temperamental when worked heavily and the cost of working one makes it a bit unreal compared to a swap. The money I'd spend on a sweet xflow I can put in a duratec. Don't want to do that to this esky. Its on the plans for my other MK2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskynut Posted March 17, 2008 Author Share Posted March 17, 2008 just buy an fxgt. rofl Yup thats the plan. Got my eye on a rolla now. If I get it cheap I only need a t50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 but for what I would spend rebuilding my xflow (or pinto in my shed) I could put in a 4age and t50.. my mate rebuilt his xflow not long ago for about $250, (rings were fine) new set of big end bearings, gaskets and chain. Got some info of the net and ticked the head, added a 32/36 weber and flows. Go's hard. I don't think people are saying you need to go ford power, most of us are just saying that if power isn't what you're after.. and you are on a budget, we don't really understand the point of doing a conversion at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 ^^ or do a conversion but make it the simplist of all with a Pinto. A standard pinto with extractors is a very good car to learn to rally in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980esky Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I'm currently having the same dilemma as to what engine to put into my Mk 2 Ghia, I've been looking at SR20's, CA18's and now researching the 4AGE. I think I've finally got it pegged on the 4AGE, reasons being...... 1: lack of metal that needs chopping to insert said motor, 2: basically a BDA motor having the same bore size and stroke but with better build quality, 3: nice and light for better handling characteristics, 4: plenty of bolt on parts for further mods, and the price is right for around $500. This is only my opinion and therefore may not be what others agree with, but in the end it's your car and your the only person you need to keep happy. If your still struggling with your motor option, write a list of pro's and con's and take it from there, do some research also, there's plenty of sites on the net that can be very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk1Mad Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Having no personal experience in conversions I can't say much but have done a lot of reading on various conversions etc, dreaming of having a workshop and time to complete one. 4AGE Conversion Best site to read through I've ever found on this - http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/phil.bradshaw/Index.htm Seams best to get AE86 engine and box complete with ecu and intake manifold to save time and $$. Zetec & Duratec Conversion Highest quality off the shelf parts - http://www.retroford.co.uk/ - Great to copy and see how its done. I would go Zetec on sidedrafts or injection if you can figure it with Megasquirt. Don't have any experience with Jap stuff but im sure some of that other stuff would be good. My 2c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin' joe Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Yep power isn't everything. You need to be able to get that power down and get traction. The fastest 4wd rally cars actually are quite low in hp just HEAPS of torque. I'm just building a low cost club car to have fun and learn to drive it. Don't need or want undie browning power. No point learning to rally in a full on grp4 car. That's why I would have thought a std 4age will be ok. I could always play with it later. pinto with lighter flywheel and extractors. will rev a wee bit freer and haave gobloads of torque. cheap to do, and very easy. a 3T and 5-speed is a better bet than a $AG(<-deliberate). cheap, available and easier/cheaper to tickle. a standard 4ag will be dissapointing, and a waste of time and money getting ALL the RWD bits that are needed.fit a factory RWD set-up to save unnecessary cutting and costs after the weekend, a G13B with Samurai box is a good way if you want a screamer, but requires cutting and integral part of the escorts front end strength (unless you go DLI) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 i had a 4age in a mk2 2dr.. the project pages have disappeared from here, was back in 04.. got a blue top motor from the crash fxgt for $200, swapped the shell etc for a monster tach and a intercooler that i sold for $300!!, picked up a k50 box with clutch etc from night parts who also modded my loom, both came to $250 the lot (oh and they modded my intake) used a ke70 driveshaft that i got for $20..had an engineer neighbour to spin up a flange adaptor for the driveshaft to bolt onto the diff head, and the mounts were all done in a day, didnt have to cut the sump or the tunnel... all up it cost me about $500...not bad... but i got a good $$$ offer for the whole set up for a rally car so i sold it and dropped in a pinto with a vf10 turbo and sierra injection....but never finished it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS5620 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 It already has a xflow 1600 in it. Just wanted a little bit more reliability and performance. Thought 4age would be a good conversion. So many think its bad using anything but ford, but for what I would spend rebuilding my xflow (or pinto in my shed) I could put in a 4age and t50. Xflows tend to get temperamental when worked heavily and the cost of working one makes it a bit unreal compared to a swap. The money I'd spend on a sweet xflow I can put in a duratec. Don't want to do that to this esky. Its on the plans for my other MK2. I thought that was going to be the case when i started my 4age conversion in my cortina but not the case!! spent a heap more then it would have been to get engine rebuilt!! Good luck with what ever you do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-e Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 just for reference by now eskynut may have completed either, as that was said over 2 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSC Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 actually if he hasnt completed any conversion now if i did my car again id go 12a bridgy no torque so standy diff will hold up. a good one with even a sidey will blow a pinto into the weeds. s1 rx7 boxes are cheap as shit. mounting is easy. no efi to worry about. and just get a shitter engine off tardme. be sweet for a club car that probably wont see huge kms. get it tuned right and the worst it should do is wear out then just take it to rotamax for decent rebuild. meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin' joe Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 OSC, biggest issue with a rotor would be the money involved in fitting a decent low ratio diff to get the torqueless engine to hook up, whereas a pinto would work with standard ratio, but much better with a 4.4 or lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 It's not a fucking truck. A 12A Rotary Engine would work perfectly fine in a MkII Escort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin' joe Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 It's not a fucking truck.A 12A Rotary Engine would work perfectly fine in a MkII Escort. the only decent rotary escort i know of (albeit Mk1) has a 5.3:1 diff and still has to use 'slipper' pads to get a bit of launch wheelspin on tarmac, but is fine on gravel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 I think it's fairly safe to say the likes of RX3's, 4's & 5's didn't run differentials that high and they're not that different in size to the Escort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzl Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 rx3 diffs arent much stronger than an escort diff anyway. escorts are made for anything.....built for mad skids.and sideways gravel bashing.. thats all, not for picking up chicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizer Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Rotors in escorts normally have to be on a shitty angle to clear the steering rack etc though, Mazda FE DOHC + cams FTW imo lol Th0 a mAd aSS puLsIn MadAZ F0rD RX EsK0rT wIt Da pH@ duMpY aN s0m m0dZzzzz wUd b fuLly SicK G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Mazda FE DOHC + cams FTW imo lol I LIKE WHAT YOUR SAYING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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