kiwitina Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I am slowly getting back into the escort, the body is going to take a while as I am still learning to weld, but i have the doors and boot lid finished, am i best to primer them and leave for another year, or paint them now? If im best tp paint it now what paint should i use? leaving primer for a good amount of time before flatting and paint is good it will reduce the chance of sink back, but not too long as primer is not water proof and the metal beneath may start to rust Based on my novice level of experience and what ive read here I'd say you would want to get it primed atleast but avoid painting single doors etc. one at a time. Think you would want to paint your upper coats all at the same time to avoid panels etc that dont match the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 even in the best conditions a year is a long time to leave primer and possibly asking for trouble if you have bare metal patches you can give them a light flick with some form of cold galv/zinc spray to stop them rusting and sand that off before priming later on or use some form of metal ready stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpr Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 may have been answered already, but cant find. 2k onto plastic bumper. special primer required for the plastic ? suggested method? getting some hifill for rest of car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 plastic primer does eggzachary what it says on they tin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I read somewhere that your supposed to paint the whole side at least at the same time, as paint is 'translucent' (not really the right word, but you get the idea) and one coat wont cover up miss matched shades? seems logical to me and i'll be doing this with my car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Got a mean tip on how to do roofs when I did the 2 door, start from the side work your way to the middle then run your white ass to the other side and work from middle to otherside keeping wet therfore avoiding streaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 with metallics its a good idea to do it all in one go and all panels on the car solid colours should stay the same with the right coverage but not red red is gay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidian Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 about to start prep on the lada. Ive prepper a couple of cars before using wet hand sand and spray can primers and wasn't bad. Whats the general preference to sanding the paint off? Wet, dry or shall I just get the ol' orbital and deal to it? In terms of primer, might do cans again. The car is garaged with lots of room front and back, but only around 500 each side and I dont have the gear to properly spray it. EDIT: Also in terms of taking vinyl stickers off, Im going to take to it with a heat gun and scraper, so im guessing mid temp around 200mm off the car with the gun sounds about right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmagedon Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 how much paint would be needed to paint a BMX frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 with a small gun 200ml + thinners will do it davidian- you dont need to sand the paint off. if the paint already on it is in good condition then a scuff with a grey scotch pad will be fine or 500grit paper if you want to take off some orange peel. spray can primer is ok for small patches (300x300mm square is about as big as id go) but it never truly cures and is not good for trying to build up the surface, more than 3 coats and it'll stay too soft for stickers try a caramel wheel from a paint shop, takes the sticker and the glue off in one go ant wont damage the paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidian Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 with a small gun 200ml + thinners will do itdavidian- you dont need to sand the paint off. if the paint already on it is in good condition then a scuff with a grey scotch pad will be fine or 500grit paper if you want to take off some orange peel. spray can primer is ok for small patches (300x300mm square is about as big as id go) but it never truly cures and is not good for trying to build up the surface, more than 3 coats and it'll stay too soft for stickers try a caramel wheel from a paint shop, takes the sticker and the glue off in one go ant wont damage the paint thanks dude, will try that caramel wheel. paint on car at the mo isnt too bad, mostly the clear which is tired and I want to respray in a similar colour anyways but dont have the setup to spray it properly with primer. Since it's a dark red I thought I'd hit it with the red primer? As for curing, can I tweak drying time/temperature (heaters) and moisture (duhumidi) to get a better result? a couple of good coats will do methinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 tinted primers are only really needed with waterbased paints as solvent base paint will/should cover up fine sand any areas the clear is flaking with 500/600 grit but scotch pad the rest (500 in the primer of course) heaters will help the first stage of drying but a little time never hurt dehumidifiers...hmm i dont think will help other than warming the room for spot priming use a halogen work lamp about set about a 1 to 2m away helps dry it quicker without heating the whole shed just dont paint it white red+white+2 weeks later=pink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
160jsss Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Any one had a play with the 3M etch primer that supercheap sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 ive used the 3m filler primer and the 3m high temp paint, seemed pretty good to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Any one had a play with the 3M etch primer that supercheap sell has the 3M price tag thats for sure but 3m is 'usually good shit' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
160jsss Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Any one had a play with the 3M etch primer that supercheap sell has the 3M price tag thats for sure but 3m is 'usually good shit' I was thinking it was cheap ? thats why i asked if it was any good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 depends what it is, being cheap id say it will be vinyl etch, which is about as good as standard primer on a well prepared surface Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
160jsss Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Thanks bubblegoose for all your help trying to get the car painted soon I have surface rust on most of the car was planing on degrease then hit it with Phosphoric Acid then do I hit it with etch primer or just primer sorry for the hundred dumb questions I've read this right up but so much info to take in as always I want the best for the cheapest price . Its a Datsun so I don't want it to rust again The funny thing is I paint roads for a living but the stuff I put water based paint down at 200 microns and spray at 2000 to 3000 psi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanners Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Paint said dastun with double yellow line colour then? Would be sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
160jsss Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Paint said dastun with double yellow line colour then? Would be sweet I'm hoping that right foot will mean no passing and the stuff we use you don't want near your car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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