cletus 38,284 Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 On 11/05/2020 at 18:56, j.e.d. said: Exhaust cutouts.. okay, I’ve read that they can be legal as long as they’re not electronically controlled in the car and have a blanking plate over them which you have to physically get under the car to remove (for the likes of going to the drags). Has anybody installed (and done this to) an electronically controlled exhaust cutout? I’d be keen to get some feedback on it and pics if possible.. I’ll only do it if it’s possible and certifiable when I get my suspension done. @cletuswhats your line on this? (sorry if it’s been asked before, search turned up nothing) Do you mean having an electric cut out to dump the exhaust before the mufflers, but then having it capped so the electric cut out cant be used? That would be one of those situations where it doesnt say you cant do it in the rules, but I wouldn't cert it because it is obvious the cap would be left off so the electric cut out could be used A bit like people who have externally venting wastegates who put a cap over the outlet so it's not venting at all any more 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cletus 38,284 Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 7 hours ago, zep said: Gearbox mounting. With my new engine swap, it uses the same factory engine mounts but it brings the gearbox 11mm closer to the front of the car. The gearbox has a plate that bolts to it (with 2 bolts) and then mounts to the x-member with a single centre bolt. It's the primer part in the following image: To keep from modding the x-member, most people just shift the mounting holes on this plate 11mm forward and weld up the old ones. An example shown in the next pic: Is this an okay approach for this, or should an entirely new plate be made? @cletus would appreciate your input. Also, concerning old certs. My car is currently certed for a number of things, including a half-cage (with front side intrusion bars) based on the old main hoop diameter. Some things need updating - i.e. new engine, different rear brakes, but some are the same. Do the old certed things that stay the same need to be recertified? I dont see a problem with doing that if it's only offset by 11mm, just make it neat and tidy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sr2 1,221 Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Just now, cletus said: Do you mean having an electric cut out to dump the exhaust before the mufflers, but then having it capped so the electric cut out cant be used? That would be one of those situations where it doesnt say you cant do it in the rules, but I wouldn't cert it because it is obvious the cap would be left off so the electric cut out could be used A bit like people who have externally venting wastegates who put a cap over the outlet so it's not venting at all any more Spoil-sport! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j.e.d. 1,320 Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 9 hours ago, cletus said: Do you mean having an electric cut out to dump the exhaust before the mufflers, but then having it capped so the electric cut out cant be used? That would be one of those situations where it doesnt say you cant do it in the rules, but I wouldn't cert it because it is obvious the cap would be left off so the electric cut out could be used A bit like people who have externally venting wastegates who put a cap over the outlet so it's not venting at all any more Thanks man, I get that.. maybe I'll just chuck a cutout in with a bolted blanking plate instead.. Only wanna put one in to be loud at old school drag day.. won't be fast, so need to be loud to make up for it 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zep 342 Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 That @cletus About the cage, if the car is currently certed for whats in there, I should not have to make any changes to it, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cletus 38,284 Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Correct. If it's on the plate then it's already covered and doesn't need to be certed again. As long as it's safe, ie it doesnt have nails welded to it facing the drivers face 19 hours ago, KKtrips said: Hey Leon. Anything that has been previously certified is accepted at face value unless there is something that could be considered not fit for purpose or if it was unsafe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zep 342 Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 @cletus awesome! Thanks. And @KKtrips I totally missed your reply, thanks too! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hood 71 Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 I have a compliance check ( re register) question. I have 2wd Hilux side project that's nearing completion. Factory unmodified, currently de-registered and in the panel shop for repairs, its a had a minor knock the cross member below the radiator which I'm lead to believe it will need a repair cert. I'm happy for this to be carried out, but my panel man thinks it may not be necessary. Would it be liable for the said panel shop to have an approval letter stating a repair cert is not required to keep the compliance inspector happy? Or is there such a thing? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kyteler 59,611 Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Why not just get them to tidy it up whilst it's in the shop? How damaged is it that you think it's repair cert worthy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cletus 38,284 Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Is it having rust repairs done at the panel shop? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hood 71 Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, cletus said: Is it having rust repairs done at the panel shop? No rust repairs there Clint, its clean on that side of things Just now, kyteler said: Why not just get them to tidy it up whilst it's in the shop? How damaged is it that you think it's repair cert worthy? Yes, its getting all sorted at the shop. Well basically it has a minor dent in the cross member from coming into contact with a tow ball. Prior to the damage taking place the whole chassis had been cleaned up and painted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SOHC 10,441 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Could I jack my car up by 80mm in the rear by through bolting tube with plate welded to the ends to the lower spring mounts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JustHarry 1,935 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Just get longer springs? For 80mm lift you will likely need new shocks aswell Pretty sure over 50mm requires cert. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SOHC 10,441 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, JustHarry said: Just get longer springs? For 80mm lift you will likely need new shocks aswell Pretty sure over 50mm requires cert. I don't want to spend any money, I fitted front shocks from a Land Cruiser so they are plenty long and when fully compressed they were the same length as the stock shocks compressed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bling 20,785 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 If it's for use on the road, and you don't want to spend money, it's a pretty easy no. Doesn't seem like a good design and even if it was, it would need certing, so you're out of luck in every way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mof 13,126 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, JustHarry said: Just get longer springs? For 80mm lift you will likely need new shocks aswell Pretty sure over 50mm requires cert. Spring lift doesn't require cert. Unless wof guy thinks he's above the rules 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mof 13,126 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Woah, sorry seems they've just changed the wording. Damn now I guess I'm up for cert 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mof 13,126 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Lift springs are direct replacement? A bit vague https://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplementary_information/LVVTA_LVV_Cert_Threshold.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JustHarry 1,935 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Just now, Mof said: Woah, sorry seems they've just changed the wording. Damn now I guess I'm up for cert Generally you get away with bigger lifts if it's done right and your not a fuckwit Also friendly wof places help 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mof 13,126 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Depends who you get at the place too. Used to fail, show them old lvv Threshold sheet, pass. Last guy I had would not let it go, eventually had to resort to "oh I'll give it to you this time, but next time...." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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