Spencer Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Under $800 is going to leave you with only the cheapies, you already knew the answer to the question. Hunt for something second hand and just do burnouts on them if they are shit/gone hard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 If you can spend $800, then get the Nittos through Mark at manawatu toyota. They are by all accounts better then the Achilles. I can guarantee you will lose traction with the Achilles, as I do in my corolla. They are fine for trackdays but I am sure you will find their limit pretty soon with your motor I'm not saying they are shit, they are great value for the money, but if you have $800 to spend, buy the best you can afford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 *$885 http://forums.toyspeed.org.nz/viewtopic.php?t=90749 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacker.cam Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 205 50 15 is the size that they run in the E30 series so you might be able to get a decent deal for R888s somehow. If you can't get slicks hot just add more scrub. Slicks are (generally) always going to give you better times than a semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 Crikey Steve, thanks for the heads up, he can do a set of 205 50 15 Nitto NT01's for $885 ($222ea), thats a pretty damn good price, for what is said to be a great tyre, I think I may have to go that way TBH. Edit: Beaten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKer Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 why semi's? what are you going to do with them ex race car slicks are cheaper and good for a few track days or are you going to be a touge worrier and run them on the road/need to be legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 I just prefer semis as they are more of an all weather tyre, and they have good grip from the word go. I'll be doing mostly gymkhana spec shit, with a little dual sprinitng, and the odd hill climb. I just read a pile of reviews, some of which put the R888 directly up against the NT01, and everyone liked the NT01 more, so cant really go wrong with them by the sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKer Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 pm user madmike : he had 15"s for his Legacy on TM recently he has 2x sets of 5 brand new Silver stone FTZ Slicks (NOT semis soz) 195 50 15"s medium compound, actually ask Keltik about them, he may recall what he was asking for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin'joe Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 cum-hoe V700's are a good allrounder, were $225 each (unsure now) can be had second hand easy enough as Pre-65 and other classes use them not as good as A-008Rs, but not much was. with limited warm up , slicks would not be advisable. furthermore, they are not legal for motorkhana/autocross or sealed hillclimbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRWEST Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 i had dunlop dz401 ? i think semis on my subi round hamptons...twas epic...bought 2nd hand for f all with heaps of tread, sold htem to clunt and they went/got wrecked on his race car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 The arc hillies 123 man got back to me, for 195 50 15's they are only $120ea delivered, KRICKEY THATS CHEAP. I do wonder how good a semi slick, thats as cheap as a supercat, would be, ha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 They aren't bad, I suspect they have a whole load of stock they are trying to clear, iirc they were used as a control tyre in some racing series. Either that or they just are that cheap (they are from Indonesia afterall lol) get the Nitto's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabe Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 The arc hillies 123 man got back to me, for 195 50 15's they are only $120ea delivered, KRICKEY THATS CHEAP. I do wonder how good a semi slick, thats as cheap as a supercat, would be, ha. Who is that from? Shareable? That is hella cheap/awesome. Personally I rate them but my car is slow and I suck at driving so my goals are a lot different than what yours seem to be. They are a small step up from a road tire I have found, but I just buy them cos they are cheap for what I need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I did some trackdays and a few rounds of dual sprints on 123s on civic. They definitely stick better than a road tyre and worked well until about 7-8 laps in when they would get slippery, much like the road tyres I've done similar events with. I got mine for 120ea also, can't really beat that price eh! I imagine maybe the nittos would last better in longer sessions, but if you are only doing sprints then either will be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrstar Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I want to know whats the best for around $800, I know R888's are the best pretty much, but cant afford to spend $1200 on tyres. wouldn't rate 888's as the "best" i have had a great run out of the older dunlop 02g's and also some 03g's but i do believe the 888's are great value for the monies, probably 90% performance of the dunlops for 60% of the price.. I have a set for my mazda. I tossed up between the 888's and the cheaper nitto's and the look of the pattern for the nitto's put me off as they don't look as though they would have much wet weather capability.. Not sure you would ever be all that happy with the 123's / you'd probably just end upgrading to 888's anyway?? don't buy slicks unless you are doing circuit stuff only in the summer time.. TL:DR Save some more monies buy 888's - anything under $300 Per tyre is not outrageous for semi's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRWEST Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 ah yeah i think mine were 03G's now you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anglia4 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Couldn't be arsed reading the whole thread but here is my knowledge on semis Central muscle cars used to run Kumhos (victoracer v700 I think) and now they run Hankook Ventus RSS z214 and have apparently gained over a second a lap at manfiled across the board. (just what I've been told) I can break into the 15's at manfield in the muzzy on a nearly fucked set of victoracers. We are going to upgrade to the Hankooks. I'm excited. ^ all my knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderwebfx Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Just in case anyone is interested, the Toyo R888 and the Nitto NT-01 are a very similar compound rubber. (Half the Toyo R888's now are made in the US by Nitto.) Toyo's however have the advantage of being able to flip them on the rim due to being directional. This is especially good if you only go to one track that is the same direction all the time. (I.e. Taupo is always anti-clockwise, and Pukekohe is clockwise.) You will wear one side a lot more than the other so flipping them on the rim will mean they will last a lot longer. Own experience; I used Kumho V700's (victoracers) in a 225/45R17 on my old S14. They were pretty good. I found the 225/50R16 Toyo R888's to be a lot better and a lot more predictable when on the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 ^have heard similar about the nitto's being similar compound to the toyo's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 furthermore, they are not legal for motorkhana/autocross or sealed hillclimbs. Toyo's however have the advantage of being able to flip them on the rim due to being directional. These are very good points. I didnt think about not being able to swap them side to side (the nitto's), as I mainly do taupo, which owns one tyre in particular on my car, so that may be a pain in the ass. Thanks for all the info chaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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