Beaver Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 producer statements. basically someone legit saying the shit is legit http://www.ipenz.org.nz/ipenz/forms/pdfs/PN01-Guidelines-on-Producer-Statements.pdf?39293 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Rookie will do the ls1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 Ok after reading that I doubt it is required for a garage, unless the council coming round when it is done is counted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Wouldn't it be a hoot if you had to knock it down once you completed it because you didn't get the compliancing right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 I asked them what they wanted and they said to check the reo before the pad was poured and then a final check when it was done. I can't see any problem arising if I do what they told me to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 have you dealt with councils before? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 This might be helpfull (see bold). Its is from the hutt city council but pretty sure its generic building act shit. Producer statements: These are a formal document declaring that a particular design or product application will comply with the building code. The council requires a producer statement if you have engaged an engineer to carry out structural design work as part of your preparation of building plans. You will need to ensure the engineer provides you with a PS1 to submit with your application. (A PS4 is the document the engineer will supply at the end of the project stating that he or she has supervised implementation of the design and that the work complies with the building code. Also I assume you have building consent for this? the PS1/2/3/4 etc are generally part of the consent process and according to this, you need building consent (assuming the shed is greater than 10 squares. It is the list of things that are exempt. 3Single-storey detached buildings not exceeding 10 square metres in floor area (1)Building work in connection with any detached building that— (a)is not more than 1 storey (being a floor level of up to 1 metre above the supporting ground and a height of up to 3.5 metres above the floor level); and ( does not exceed 10 square metres in floor area; and ©does not contain sanitary facilities or facilities for the storage of potable water; and (d)does not include sleeping accommodation, unless the building is used in connection with a dwelling and does not contain any cooking facilities. (2)However, subclause (1) does not include building work in connection with a building that is closer than the measure of its own height to any residential building or to any legal boundary. I actually dont know what Im talking about. Just trying to be helpfull/make sure you dont dig yourself a hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 have you dealt with councils before? That ^ Also have you got your understanding in writing from the council? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 I have consent, I provided them with plans/ engineering details from the shed company, as well as the producer statement from coloursteel. I also told them I will be building it and they had no issues with this. Basically I am now up to step 7. https://www.taupodc.govt.nz/our-services/building-consents-and-information/building-consents-and-information/Documents/Applying%20for%20Consent%20Guide.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 sweet, they might ask you for a ps4 (ie get garage company back to sign off installation is as per design) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 This might be helpfull (see bold). Its is from the hutt city council but pretty sure its generic building act shit. Producer statements: These are a formal document declaring that a particular design or product application will comply with the building code. The council requires a producer statement if you have engaged an engineer to carry out structural design work as part of your preparation of building plans. You will need to ensure the engineer provides you with a PS1 to submit with your application. (A PS4 is the document the engineer will supply at the end of the project stating that he or she has supervised implementation of the design and that the work complies with the building code. Also I assume you have building consent for this? the PS1/2/3/4 etc are generally part of the consent process and according to this, you need building consent (assuming the shed is greater than 10 squares. It is the list of things that are exempt. 3Single-storey detached buildings not exceeding 10 square metres in floor area (1)Building work in connection with any detached building that— (a)is not more than 1 storey (being a floor level of up to 1 metre above the supporting ground and a height of up to 3.5 metres above the floor level); and ( does not exceed 10 square metres in floor area; and ©does not contain sanitary facilities or facilities for the storage of potable water; and (d)does not include sleeping accommodation, unless the building is used in connection with a dwelling and does not contain any cooking facilities. (2)However, subclause (1) does not include building work in connection with a building that is closer than the measure of its own height to any residential building or to any legal boundary. I actually dont know what Im talking about. Just trying to be helpfull/make sure you dont dig yourself a hole. Have you engaged an engineer? Shed will just be to 3604 wont it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 Well the shed company used an engineer to design the building obviously, but I seriously doubt I will have to get an engineer to come and have a look at the shed, from what I can tell they are super blase about it all. Anyway, it is under control, I have done everything they have asked of me and I will continue to do so, because that is the only way to deal with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 4.2 of the linked document up there ^ has the list of building inspections and it appears very little applies to what I am doing so I will be fine with a final building check I'm pretty sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 What I am trying to say is, councils often ask for a ps4 to accompany their signoff. While they (producer statements) do not really have any legal standing, they do show a duty of care provided by the council (even if deferred to 3rd party) and covers their bum from rappage if some shit hits the fan for a future property owner in however many years time as it hasnt been installed properly (ie they cant be held accountable). Edit, this may well apply to dwellings rather than simple non inhabited structures. I am not sure if it pays to ask if they want one or not, cos then they might just say yes and you will need to get someone in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 Have a read of the linked document up there chief, but I'm pretty sure you are over think things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Its a shed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Yeah I read that afterwards, hence edit, I was trying to help you understand what Eliot was raising lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Forget producer statements.The reason I mentioned anything is because councils will require a list of LBPs (designer (shed company, engineer (shed company), builder (???), plumber, drainlayer etc etc before (often on the actual application form) they even bother allowing you to book inspections, and those LBPs generally produce some form of producer statement prior to CCC as evidence of their work being to a certain standard. The example I am thinking of here is whomever is performing the building work and whether they are LBPs themselves. If the building work isn't done by a LBP, then you may have issues booking inspections/getting shit done. If I'm barking up the wrong tree then I'm glad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlancer Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Also, freely admitting that I have not really read what others have said in full detail... I don't know your district plan - you may be sweet to build a certain sized whatever with no issues - the soakholes were an indicator to me, however, that this is not the case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRWEST Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 if you need to provide a ps4 they will state it in the building ocnsent. if its not in there then no need for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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