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I got the escort for a good spanking run at Hampton at the end of Oct. Great Fun!

Just a couple of issues of fuel serge and overheating so an excellent result for first shakedown run. The fuel serge was I think just lack of fuel in the tank… The V6 is thirstier than I thought.

The overheat after 4 hot laps I plan to fix with a new aluminium radiator to replace the original 40 year old beast of unknown blockage and suspect abilities. But now I am wondering how to size the radiator and having trouble getting one to fit.

The hole in the bulkhead in the front of the engine bay has a hole 510mm wide x 340mm high.

Is it worth getting a radiator with a core bigger than this?

I am not sure as any larger will be mostly shrouded by the bulkhead.

One candidate is an STA RX7 aluminium radiator with code 522 x 350 x 60mm. I am not sure how much the extra thickness helps.

Would this be big enough?

Next candidate is Fenix Torana Aluminium with core 612 x 348 x 56mm, but will need some modifications to fit and extra width will not see much air.

Thoughts / comments?

Cheers

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Get as big a radiator as your can fit in there - your friend is volume. (you can cut holes in the bulkhead for more airflow at a later date)

Alloy rads do not necessarily mean cooler - copper radiators cool better but are heavy.

Race cars use alloy rads cos they are lighter, easier to repair and manufacture.

Are you using a stock Escort radiator at the mo??

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Take your radiator and get it checked over by a rad shop first.

If they say its pretty good nick then ask them what they can do about putting a bigger core between the tanks - they run V8's in the Zodiac/Zephyr's so you must be able to get a decent multi core insert.

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Were abouts are you? Jason at Auckland Radiators is a legend. He used to build some awesome rads for our ealry rotaries.

One thing about copper/brass rads is that you can pretty much chop and change them no worries, by that I mean you can move inlet/outlets from one side to another and change mounting brackets really easily as they are soldered together. With an alli one I would imagine that they would be harder to modifiy as it would all need alli welding down.

I guess what I am saying is with a copper and brass one you could custom fit it to your car, but with an Alli one you might have to custom your car to the rad?

My £0.02

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Can't hurt having that extra volume to be honest..

Be careful in this regards. You want the engine to sit at its operating temperature which is controlled by the thermostat. With too much airflow through the radiator the water in the rad gets too cold and then when the thermostat opens up the engine cools to much which closes the thermostat and the process starts again - you will see the temp go from operating to cold to operating to cold etc etc

Im going through this currently where I will have to block off the lower portion of the rad to get temp to sit at operating temp.

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^^This is a good point. A similar thing happened (although was not the only factor) in the MGF, and the thermal shock of warming and cooling means they shit head gaskets like no tomorrow. You can always get an oversize radiator, then block of some of it with a board or something though.

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Good point on the too much cooling. Had not thought of that. Not sure this is going to be a problem though as STA radiator was typo in catalogue and only 522 x 270 x 60 not 522 x 350. Volume 0.011m3, area 0.141m2 which seems too small.

Plan D was Fenix radiator, but that one not in stock.

Inventing plan E now. Maybe BWM M3 will fit at core 550 x 440 x 42. Got to check overall sizes.

Or end up at plan F and get it custom made.

Track day approaching now…

Not sure what a radiator shop can do with the existing one or if it is worth taking it in?

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Got two pushing fans blowing hard. Only one is shrouded and there is a gap before the radiator so some airflow through but not maximized.

Pretty sure no air locks. -How do you tell??

Coolant boiling after stopping not a good sight. Always let her run a fast idle for a couple of minutes and bonnet up after the track time.

Radiator sized cardboard template time this weekend...

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