Mattt Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 Hmm, you raise a valid point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durty Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Man just get a 2jz, run it on tripples and make a 4m valve cover fit itlike this twin cam 5.0 Coyote with old school 427 'cammer' valve covers you will have untold issues fucking with M series shit definitely this would be sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuel Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 why a 4M head though? they flow like shit and look like shit. May as well do 7M block with 5M-GE head and put that on carbs if you want it to look like a tough older motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 PFFFT, the old 2 & 4m rocker covers look sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 If you have the hookups at a machine shop then why muck around, go the whole hog. Do a 2jz-ge like speeno suggested, but machine up a cam cover to go over the twincam head that looks like an original Toyota 3M It's of the era, so it would look like it belongs under there and you get the benefit of modern reliability. Plus it would be straight forward compared to making an M abomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I agree with Speeno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Now that would be cool, CAD one up and cut it out of billet if you are rich? bit of wrinkle paint will have it looking close? Or cast it if you can Probably could use a 2T cover to get the ideas/ball rolling/use 2 of them mashed together/fuck knows 3M 2T Speeno out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattt Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 This could definately work. I will do some thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLUX Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 http://forums.club4ag.com/zerothread?id=105108 This is interesting if you really wanted to stay M spec but that looks American so hmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattt Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 http://forums.club4ag.com/zerothread?id=105108This is interesting if you really wanted to stay M spec but that looks American so hmmmm That is very interesting! The reason I was going to go with the m series is the originality factor. It will look like the original engine that's been modified. But I would like to avoid m series if I can. I still think it will be a fun project, but as pointed out there will be endless problems. IF a 7m and a 4m fall into my lap for the righ price I may still persue this for shits and giggles. Otherwise the 2jz will be the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 IF a 7m and a 4m fall into my lap for the righ price I may still persue thisIf they fall into your lap you will see all the reasons you can't/shouldn't do this. Most of which are too difficult to explain over the interwebs. I've tried finding pictures but they fail also.Go JZ hunting. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedy Al Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 these are ideas I have been having with my crown also Make an adapter or something, I ahvnt done any measruing, but putting two 2tg or 18rg cam covers together could work. dont think the heads are as wide on a 2j tho. could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTERUS Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Install 2jz, cast your own cam covers. http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a ... -aluminum/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattt Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 these are ideas I have been having with my crown alsoMake an adapter or something, I ahvnt done any measruing, but putting two 2tg or 18rg cam covers together could work. dont think the heads are as wide on a 2j tho. could be wrong As much as I dislike the idea of having 2 cars with this setup would you be interested in buying one if I made two. Go halves in the cost? 3m style made to fit the 2jz heads perfectly. We have a team of brilliant designers that can be persuaded to design and program the cnc for the right quantity of beer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin' joe Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 rebuild the 186 into mental Bathurst spec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattt Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 rebuild the 186 into mental Bathurst spec Or you could buy it and do that. Then I don't have to own a holden engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedy Al Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 these are ideas I have been having with my crown alsoMake an adapter or something, I ahvnt done any measruing, but putting two 2tg or 18rg cam covers together could work. dont think the heads are as wide on a 2j tho. could be wrong As much as I dislike the idea of having 2 cars with this setup would you be interested in buying one if I made two. Go halves in the cost? 3m style made to fit the 2jz heads perfectly. We have a team of brilliant designers that can be persuaded to design and program the cnc for the right quantity of beer depends on cost but probabaly yes. i was thinking if I made me own to sand cast, I wouldnt be making just one anyway. I have spoken to spence about this a while ago, when i was looking at getting a ms40 pickup over from ozzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedy Al Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Oh and dont worry, Our cars would be so different, Mines a brown 80's wagon, yours is a 70's sedan, mine will have quad throttles, yours will have whatever your into, hopefully still tripple SU's as that would be soooo kewl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 quad throttles on an m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattt Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 quad throttles on an m? I imagine he means independent throttle bodys I had definately considered that and may still go that route for economy and power but I will cross that bridge when I come to it. I also thought a set of tripple delotos with trumpets could be pretty cool. Al this isn't going to happen for a while if it happens at all but ill definately let you know if this project gets under way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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