BlownCorona Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, kyteler said: That's a good tip. I wonder how adaptable a typical CD case is to one. Definitely one to try lodge into the memory banks for available options. Chances are they'll be sorter too then to accommodate the transfer case or not so much? once this virus stuff is lifted and im back at wok (or might be able to get it from said engineer) ill post the exploded diagrams he had got ahold of. they should be the same length, just a little weird looking sans transfer case because all the internal shafts ect were the same parts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 getting a little off topic. but i *think* this is the same as the what we have. You can see a standard looking output shaft and seal, and a bunch of meat which may get cut off, depending on if its structural. certainly should be able to slim it up a little. but its a race car and room can be made for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 Yeah I'm %100 not putting that under my car. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHarry Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 ^^^that's the tail housing for a 4wd? To bolt to transfer case? What the availability of a r154 vs a r150? Having that tall 5th would be lush for cruising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Valiants (Especially pre VH) have fucking tiny trans tunnels. That box has unlimited girth where an ap5 tunnel has no space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHarry Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 What about something like a 4l60/4l80e? HahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Sorry for the joke . I'll se myself out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Bw35 m9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 You shit posters can see yourselves out thanks. @sheepers You have a R154 in one of your cars don't you? How do you find it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4AG_Addict Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I have the R151 behind the 4.0 V6 petrol in my Hilux currently, no complaints, apart from a squeaky clutch release bearing. Done around 140kms Brother just sold one, also 4.0 v6, it had done 430,000 and was still going strong. Workmates diesel turbo one just blew a box at about 350000kms. It was fairly neglected and mistreated though. $2000 sounds expensive for a rebuilt one, I think they are 2500-2700ish brand new from toyota. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUL8R Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Pete, I'd run a quarter master or Howe hydraulic throwout on the clutch. Very simple to setup, and I've never had any grief from the setup itself - I've blown seals, but that was after I had snapped a braided line when the dowel broke, which in turn wrecked the housing bore. Afco 3/4 Master Cylinder and pedal was all of about $65, for a manufactured pedal & bracket which can be either floor or hanging mount By all means pop over at some point and have a look in the tank. I know a guy that changed his soarer streetstock as he kept blowing W Series, 3 within the start of the year, R154 and no issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 Thanks Chris, got a link to the release bearing? I have a factory pedal box and would probably attach the master cylinder to that under the dash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUL8R Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 https://cardwells.co.nz/clutches/howe-hydraulic-release-bearing.html There's a few places that sell them. They're simple enough to setup - basically subtract the distance from the back of the block to edge of your clutch fingers, and the distance from gearbox snout to edge of bellhousing. Allow the smallest amount of freeboard. You just shim the whole setup to where you want. Recommend two hoses, one from pedal "in" and one coming back "out" so it can be bled without the need to take gearbox/bellhousing off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Valiant said: You shit posters can see yourselves out A shitpost/sharn is in the thread title. /You brought this on yourself. (Consider it payback for unsolicited Facebook tagging with AU falcons) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepers Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Yea both my celicas have 154s. First is notchy even in the brand new ones, the rest is good. As long as your happy with the ratios of the 151 you should be good, I can't see how you would be, but whatever works. The hilux shifter makes a really good short throw shifter once you cut the unnecessary length of them. Umm, if you do go 154 there are a few different gear stick location plates and they're not all interchangeable. Hydraulic throw out for the win too, just leave more gap than is recommended because the 3-5 mm that the tilton ones recommend is way to small a gap. 10mm on setup works fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, sheepers said: As long as your happy with the ratios of the 151 you should be good, I can't see how you would be, but whatever works. Can you expand on this, where are the ratios disappointing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHarry Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 First is stupid low 4.3:1 In a landcruiser with 2.5 ton behind it it's great to get moving. But even when is empty I find first annoyingly low and second it to high to start in end up punishing the clutch. 2c the 154 is like 3.3: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yetchh Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I find the 151 ok, 1 is a little low but it does have a 4.55 rear. By the same token 5th gear feels almost non existant but with say a 3.55 rear it should be a lot better.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepers Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 As above. First is basically useless and the jump to second is like going 1st to 3rd. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 Right. I have a friend with a late 2wd hilux, I'll see if I can drive it when things settle down and decide from there. Wikipedia says that the 2wd box has a talker first than the 4wd ones, I see what people are saying though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linearentropy Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 28/03/2020 at 09:31, sheepers said: Hydraulic throw out for the win too, just leave more gap than is recommended because the 3-5 mm that the tilton ones recommend is way to small a gap. 10mm on setup works fine. Did you have to use a 3/4″ master cylinder? I've seen this recommended for the Quartermaster release bearing. I'm looking at using a ORC or OS Giken clutch with their movement kit to turn it from a pull to push clutch. But the hydraulic bearing would make life easier (and cheaper). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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