1963 AP5 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 @bigfoot I believe you have already volunteered for this and I am sure @Threeonthetree would help round up a few Auckland members for a Pick a Part mission. I just noticed this while looking at the photos again, maybe whoever removed the distributor wasn't as careful as they should have been and damaged this cap. Funny how I didn't notice it when I was looking at the actual engine yesterday. Probably no big deal but I wish people were more careful when removing bits at Pick a Part, you never know hat the next dude is going to want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transom Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Have a look on "probetalk" forum - yes dodgy name I know but those guys know these engines inside out and there is a good thread with every detail possible even when it gets to the later hybrid motors where anything from the parts bin was thrown in and they love turbos .. weak link on KLze seems to be valve retainers and facing the cam clamps to bring the clearances down and retain oil pressure to the crank and Yeah ya gotta remove valve cover and undo the clamp to remove distributor - if it's just the top clamp damaged then no big deal - cam does not run in that one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmeez Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 That damaged cap shouldn't be too much of an issue seeing as I have a whole engine I can use for spares if need be. I was planning on using the springs and retainers out of it to swap into the new motor anyway. I know what you mean about mixing and matching these engines now too. I had another look at mine today and realised the intake manifold is the ZE spec one after all, with the square intake runners, but the heads themselves are DE with the oval intake ports. That means there is a big step that the incoming air hits as it goes from manifold to head which can't be any good for airflow I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortron Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Going from the English cars I have owned, that factory sill line will be more crooked than the ones you have made good old 'handbuilt' unionised cars built on a friday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transom Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Yeah that bellhousing bolt does not line up like mine does ... thought that cad drawing looked like they were further off must be a difference between rx8 and early early rx7 pattern ? Bugger if too many bolts clash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmeez Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 So I'm starting to look seriously at how we're going to pull this engine from the car at pick a part. Dad and I pulled my current motor in a couple of ~8 hour days so I'm thinking four or five of us should be able to pull it in a day fairly easily. I have a mate who is keen to come and help but the more the merrier. Tool wise I have a full Bahco socket set and other assorted tools. We found the handiest tool was the impact gun but it's air powered so I won't be able to bring that. If someone has a battery powered one then it would make our lives much easier. I'm looking at heading down on a Sunday at the moment. I'm free any Sunday but I'm currently looking at next weekend being the 5/10/17. I know @1963 AP5 is keen and he said @bigfoot and @Threeonthetree might be able to help as well. Is there anyone else that can lend a hand? If so when is a good day for everyone? Hell I'd even go down this Sunday if people are available. Any suggestions are welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoot Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I might be freeish this sunday, depending on how engine swap on the daily goes. Next weekend is out for me cos I'm working at v8 taxis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmeez Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 Ok thanks mate, I'll bear that in mind. I'd be aiming to get there as they open to give us the maximum time but even if people rock up during the day to help out it would help heaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1963 AP5 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I might need to stop by work briefly first thing tomorrow morning but free after that, could probably be there by 10:00. 5th is good if you decide to do it next weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmeez Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 Looks like it'll be easier to plan to head down next weekend. Turns out I'm not as prepared as I thought. It should give people more time to figure out if they can help out or not. I'll keep everyone posted over the next week as to any updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 On 10/25/2017 at 15:37, Transom said: Yeah that bellhousing bolt does not line up like mine does ... thought that cad drawing looked like they were further off must be a difference between rx8 and early early rx7 pattern ? Bugger if too many bolts clash I'm pretty sure that Rx8 boxes dont bolt straight up to non-Renesis 13b engines. So possibly the bellhousing bolt pattern is different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzy Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I have a Rx8 6 speed and FC 13B engine and bolted straight up. I think as long as 13b it will bolt up, 12a might be different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Oh OK... I'd looked into it a while ago and google told me no. Interesting o know that. Google you lie! Also - there are apparently the same box as the S2000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transom Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Aisan 6spd same box as mx5 6spd different bells dunno about s2000 yeah it might be 12a bellbousing bolts are different mine is early as Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 yeah for sure 12a and 13b are different. the box i was after is a series 4 non turbo. has the highest 5th gear and better 1,2 and 3 to suit v6 http://www.solomiata.com/Drivetrain.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Looking good! Take your time getting them holes right. You'll only need to do it once and then your plate will be good every time you change engines, boxes etc I know of a car down here, a 626 with a 2.5 that a friend was given. He's been offered $100 by the local fire brigade to use it for a display so the engine could be going spare- I'll ask because I want to collect sensors etc off it. Of course getting it up your way is where the cost comes in though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmeez Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 That could be very serendipitous. I have a mate who's driving up from Invercargill so he may be able to pick it up for me. Let me know if anything comes of it and I'll see if I can organise for him to swing round on his way up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoeddynz Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I have asked but its looking like the fire service are planning on selling the car on afterwards to a wrecker. These engines then head overseas (or so my local wreckers told me of the mazda engine I spotted their pile two days ago of which I wanted to pilfer bits from..) I'll keep a look out for ya though. One day these engines will become so rare and they'll be worth like $50 or more!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nominal Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 You would think they would be able to do a better job than that. I wonder how they determined the centres - for the holes you can get/make machinists buttons 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT105e Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Sheet of perspecs, put against block, mark hole locations with red sharpie, put opposing face against box and mark in blue/black sharpie-job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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