Geophy Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 ^ this is so true, where else in the world would people foam over a rusty Morris Minor then foam over a perfect mid eightys Toyota Starlet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyscar Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 A slightly modified blacktop does drive significantly better than a standard one including being smooth with more low down drivability. Some mild cams and a link is all you really need. Leave everything else factory and it will run mint and still get up and go. I can't believe I just said that. Maybe I'm getting old. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Ape Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I think you should sell the Blacktop and install something that is already north-south orientated. An MX5 engine is the obvious choice My current daily has the Mazda BP 1.8 twincam that can also be found in MX5's. It has a beasty midrange that I find a lot more enjoyable than a peaky 4age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AALAWS Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 it's just not a modernised te27/levin/trueno without a 4age....... that and I couldn't bring myself to putting a rotor/sr20 in it........ or the engine from what is commonly referred to in some circles "a gay hairdresser's car" ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AALAWS Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 I think you should sell the Blacktop and install something that is already north-south orientated. An MX5 engine is the obvious choice My current daily has the Mazda BP 1.8 twincam that can also be found in MX5's. It has a beasty midrange that I find a lot more enjoyable than a peaky 4age no offence - I'm sure its a great engine, just not what I want to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Have you considered a 2ZZ? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorollaGT Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I think you should sell the Blacktop and install something that is already north-south orientated. An MX5 engine is the obvious choice My current daily has the Mazda BP 1.8 twincam that can also be found in MX5's. It has a beasty midrange that I find a lot more enjoyable than a peaky 4age What you meant to say is F20C. Have Kelford "rally" cams in a blacktop and find myself only really needing to rev it up to 6k most of the time. No peaky-Ness which is great for road use. These are what the 20v should have come from factory with TBH 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin'joe Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 2tg on sideys.............. keep it period 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AALAWS Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 Have you considered a 2ZZ? I did a little research into that a few years back.......has it actually been some setups done for RWD? 2tg on sideys.............. keep it period yeah nah.........want a bit more poke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AALAWS Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 What you meant to say is F20C. Have Kelford "rally" cams in a blacktop and find myself only really needing to rev it up to 6k most of the time. No peaky-Ness which is great for road use. These are what the 20v should have come from factory with TBH Nice......saw that ke25 race car with the F20C, was on trade me recently for 25K......a little bit of firewall work but oh boy what a rocket. Would have MAYBE considered a H22A red top if there were RWD applications but meh Good to know about the cams.......I'll probably just do a refresh of the engine, make it look pretty, add some cams and leave it there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AALAWS Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 thanks for all the input guys....really appreciate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Kelly barr Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I did a little research into that a few years back.......has it actually been some setups done for RWD? yeah nah.........want a bit more poke Yup I was going to do one into my carina. Lotus 7 rep guys use a ford 5sp and sell adaptor plates. I was going to put it up to the T50 or possibly a W series Toyota box. Have since sold it as I have a running 4age that bolts straight in so will save on build costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Kelly barr Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 If I was to do a RWD build where I was swapping motors and gearboxes I'd go straight to the 2GR. 3.5L 6cyl <~~ you can't beat that. That and because it's a V6 not straight 6 the weight is kept behind the front wheels more. That and it's lights as hell being full alloy 300hp and 300nm on standard RELIABLE ecu, loom and un-opened motor. 2GR FTW!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBreeze Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 2TG yeah nah.........want a bit more poke 2T-G with some mild work is easy in blacktop performance zone. Stock for stock they put out the same power/torque figures as bluetops. They are really great motors, just a bit physically large & heavy for the displacement. Have some cents - If it was me I would go 2T-G and aim for a te27 replica instead of the 38th 4age powered ke25 in NZ. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin'joe Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 If I was to do a RWD build where I was swapping motors and gearboxes I'd go straight to the 2GR. 3.5L 6cyl <~~ you can't beat that. That and because it's a V6 not straight 6 the weight is kept behind the front wheels more. That and it's lights as hell being full alloy 300hp and 300nm on standard RELIABLE ecu, loom and un-opened motor. 2GR FTW!! define "light as hell being full alloy" love to know the composition of the crank/flywheel/cams and rods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatestben Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Google says somewhere around 165-185kg. That probably doesn't include ancillaries but that's pretty light! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin'joe Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Google says somewhere around 165-185kg. That probably doesn't include ancillaries but that's pretty light! you reckon, very similar weight to a complete, dry manual V6 Commode motor with loom and bell. sub 200kg on a pallet . but back on topic, bored and stroked 2tg on sides for period doorts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatestben Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I looked harder: Fully Dressed With Fluids: 163Kg And it's not a commodore motor LY7 dry - 168kg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 On / off topic question. What's a nice muffler combo for a black top in a road car? About to re make mine. Curently it drones quite badly with some coby things In it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Some kind of chambered muffler (preferably a larger pipe size than the zaust) with some pipe after it will make a huge difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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