OldNathan Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Hi guys, So as some will know my latest Mark 11 coupe edition has a 289 Ford under the bonnet. I have no idea about these things but from what I have found out its a Boss copy. She has a Windsor block and Cleveland heads. A demon carb etc. My question right now is Im trying to find out what the heads are. Ive been told there will be a 4 cast on the head if it is 4V and nothing if it is a 2V. But this has a 3 stamped there. Does anyone know what this might mean? Also what would something like this be worth with a W50 behind it with bellhousing and clutch etc? Runs mint and is a very responsive engine. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Open chamber 2V heads if I remember right. Not the realy good ones but on a 289 should work very well. If someone has gone to the trouble of using Cleavland heads on a Windsor block, knowen as the "Boss" then you can bet the chambers and ports have been cc'd and match ported. What it's worth will depend on how well it's been put together and what internals the engine has in it. W50 $300 if it is a W50, they are cast iron. If it's an alloy gearbox is a W55, 56 or 57. $500. Bell, flywheel, clutch, release bearing, fork. $500ish. Engine could run from parts value of what you can see from the outside, some where arround $1K. The Boss inlet is very expensive to replace. If you are willing to take a head of and the sump so you can inspect the goodies inside anything up to $5K for one with Forged Pistons, Billet Crank, Solid Cam spec Cam Shaft, Gear driven Cam, Roller rockers, H Beam Rods. If it's in a Mk II Corona and certed I would be in heaven. 12sec quater mile runs and epic burnouts are just around the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threeonthetree Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Zebradude has a use for a Ford V8 and manual 'box. PM him as he may be interested in purchasing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNathan Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Cheers guys. With the car being certed etc id only sell it if it left me enough funds to maybe 2jz it. If not I'll just leave it there to do its job. Goes bloody well just not my thing. Especially in such a rare coupe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yetchh Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 open chamber 2vs on a 289!? must be some seriously domed slugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHC Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 2v head have oblong with rounded edges exhaust ports and 4v heads have kinda square with one Conner missing and they are huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xygtho Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 If you want to know what cylinder heads are on the motor, you could always pull a tappet cover off, and look at the casting numbers and compare them here: http://www.castingnumbers.info/site/browse/m/Ford/p/3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNathan Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Hmmm mine has 26J2 on it. Thats all. And a 3 stamped in the corner of the left head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xygtho Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Not sure what the 26J2 means - I would imagine its a day/month manufacture code, but found this on the net which may explain why you cant find any numbers on the valve spring side of the head: "4V heads may be identified by the casting mark at the upper corners of the valve cover mating surface. Australian heads and Boss 302 heads do not have these marks. A casting number identifying the head is found on the deck side.The numbers are as follows:1970 4V (closed chamber) DOAE-G, -H, -M, -N, -R1971 4V (closed chamber) D1AE-GA1971 Boss D1ZE-B1971 CJ (open chamber) D1ZE-DA1972-74 4V (open chamber) D1ZE-GA1972 HO (open chamber) D2ZE-AUS 2V clevos will have the following numbersDOAE-E,J DOAZ-A,B,D D1ZE-CB D5AE-AA D5AZ D1AE-A D3AE-G2B." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I dunno "boss copy" could mean all sorts of things old barrys who do silly things like that. how certain are you that they are actually Cleveland heads even? some guy might have put a fancy carb and aircleaner and painted the motor blue and thats it. and +1 to the likelyhood of wonky aussie casting numbers on such motors in this country. Id say anywhere from $1500 to $3000 for the motor and and box together would be a reasonable price range just depends how long you mind waiting for it to move if you are going to sell it. without having certain info on the cam, pistons heads etc. its going to be hard to ask more than $3k in my mind. I let my unknown "289" (might have even been a poos 255/worst v8 ford ever made we really could not tell from the casting numbers) and c4 go for $750 but that was to a good friend so he did get a deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 heck you can buy an LS for $3k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 ...but even a shit Ford motor is cooler than any Chev could ever be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickrock Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 ...but even a shit Ford motor is cooler than any Chev could ever be. Wash your mouth out razor wire lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threeonthetree Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Woah woah guys, calm down. We all know the Holden V8 is best 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelies Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 starfire it just to be sure. /sorry spam. i have learned some ford things here though, chur. would be cool to find out what the setup is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xygtho Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 If youre looking at selling the whole deal, surely the carb and inlet manifold has to be worth resonable coin? Box - I dont know about the value of Jap stuff... Flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, - it all adds up. Its got to be worth a couple of grand cash even splitting it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Is there a thread on this car? Old MK II with a healthy 289 sounds like a sweet thrash car if it's done well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBlades Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 //oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/topic/47099-oldnathans-1977-mx31-grande-coupe/#entry1468389 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Cheers, impossible to keep up with everything on here! EDIT: That thing is rad, who cares what that shitty 289 is worth! keep it in there, looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 That thing is way cool. If I had any money I'd be keen to buy the whole car off you myself. Always loved that shape Cressida although as they came with the 18R they were horrendously underpowered and hogged the gas badly. What does that one do to the gallon? I got 18-20 mpg round town from an all original '79 RX30 manual sedan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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