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The tricky thing is finding something that doesn't scream out of period. You put 60s style belts in a vintage car and it just makes it look like a special. No cars of the era had belts so the only thing that works period wise is something aviation styled. I've emailed Summit to see if the belts do really have that US cert and they didn't know so said ask the manufacturer. I have emailed them (RJS Racing Equipment) and am waiting to hear back. Of course having belts fitted and being able to see/use them are different things if it really comes down to it. 

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Well, I heard back from some of the big makers of belts. Simpson, Racequip, RJS and others. They don't certify their latch and link style belts to FMVSS209 at all so they aren't road rated. They only have racing SFI certs. I don't think anyone cares in the US. They just use them anyway. There are some smaller makers but they don't bother replying to questions on eBay or via their own websites at all. I can get old belts re-webbed locally but they need to have the right certs on them first so that doesn't help in this case. So unfortunately it seems like the more modern aircraft style latches are the only option despite being totally period incorrect.

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13 minutes ago, VintageSpecial said:

Well, I heard back from some of the big makers of belts. Simpson, Racequip, RJS and others. They don't certify their latch and link style belts to FMVSS209 at all so they aren't road rated. They only have racing SFI certs. I don't think anyone cares in the US. They just use them anyway. There are some smaller makers but they don't bother replying to questions on eBay or via their own websites at all. I can get old belts re-webbed locally but they need to have the right certs on them first so that doesn't help in this case. So unfortunately it seems like the more modern aircraft style latches are the only option despite being totally period incorrect.

You could get a cert/wof set and a different "off-road' set and swap them around.

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Hi All,

 

I've been scrolling through this topic but looking a a bit of advice from those who have gone before. I bought a de-reg (but still in system as lapsed in 2009) Lada Taiga ute - NZ new modified Niva basically so is a 1990 but first reg in 1995. 

Main question is around rust / corrosion - I'm fortunate that it's spent most of its life in Wanaka so is very sound, just plenty of surface rust. I have stripped and repainted half of the rear chassis (the NZ made half, I haven't touched the monocoque front). I've read that inspectors get iffy when they see new paint and think it's hiding repairs etc. Would it be better to leave it with surface rust to take to the inspection or would that automatically fail? I'll go into VINZ to discuss details but didn't want to paint myself into a corner with it.

Tray is currently off - I presume they wouldn't have a problem with that being stripped and repainted given it's non-structural? Any thoughts would be much appreciated!  Cheers 

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10 hours ago, Triumphant said:

VINZ to discuss details

each one seems to have there own ideas by the looks of it (havent personally taken one through yet) so best ask the one you intend on using 

im sure some before/during/after photos would be handy though

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Yeah, VINZ/VTNZ seem very hit and miss. There are some good ones about they seem harder and harder to find. The only way seems to be recent word of mouth. Recent because when you ask you usually get told talk to this person who says talk to that person and by the time you get some someone who has actually done it who says they used so and so at such and such place you then find out that was 10 years ago and that person is now retired or dead!

That ute is nearly 30 years old (based on a 1995 date) and 30 is the minimum age for a vintage car club eligible vehicle. It might be worth talking to someone from the VCC down there: canterbury@vcc.org.nz Tell them it's a 1990 vehicle though!

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I ran my dereg'd Hilux through VTNZ for a compliance check. I had the chassis recently painted prior to the check, it did have some minor cab damage that had been repaired but was noticeable. The inspector simply requested a structural repair cert for the vehicle to comply.

So I'd recommend not to get to carried away with paint and put it through the check as is

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Just a little update to this thread. Work progresses on my Riley. I don't think I mentioned it here but the engine does run which was a major achievement given I started with a pile of bits and totally rebuilt it (new crank, new rods, high compression pistons, etc, etc) . No cooling system yet so I can't test drive it. About to start on the timber frame and body soon.

I spoke to some well known restorers about seatbelts in vintage cars and asked how they do it. The answer was they get them registered with approved belts then swap them later and no one ever notices.

My Austin 7 is in limbo. But I did hear of someone who managed to register a car exactly like mine (Austin 7 factory running gear and new period correct body) following the exact same process I tried and while I got rejected theirs got through fine, no LVVTA cert needed.

The Vintage Car Club does know of issues and are talking with NZTA to get them to try to sort out the mess and the fact that the process is broken and applied inconsistently. That was ongoing (they mention it again in the latest club magazine). Apparently Waka Kotahi said they were too busy to sort out the problem though. Probably even more so now Waka Kotahi are being whacked with the naughty stick again.

Simon

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