Max's Ke70 Wagon 2TGEU Speeduino Discussion

[GARDRB]

Judge me and tell me how far over my head I am here

[Dudley]

Technically I’m only a part time menace 

[AE25]

Interested to see how this goes.  Haven't personally seen speeduino used as an engine ecu etc.  Usually megasquirt or mainstream ecus.  Id just make sure the ecu can work with the particular sensors and the trigger wheel lobe count.
I have a few 2tgeu spares if required.

[kws]

5 minutes ago, AE25 said:

Interested to see how this goes.  Haven't personally seen speeduino used as an engine ecu etc.  Usually megasquirt or mainstream ecus.  Id just make sure the ecu can work with the particular sensors and the trigger wheel lobe count.
I have a few 2tgeu spares if required.

Speeduino is very flexible, so sensors won't be an issue as long as you can work out the calibration of them, and most trigger patterns are supported now. Its basically just a cheaper, more frequently updated, Megasquirt these days.

Cool project, looking forward to seeing more progress

[GARDRB]

5 minutes ago, AE25 said:

Interested to see how this goes.  Haven't personally seen speeduino used as an engine ecu etc.  Usually megasquirt or mainstream ecus.  Id just make sure the ecu can work with the particular sensors and the trigger wheel lobe count.
I have a few 2tgeu spares if required.

I’ve got Max putting the guts of a blacktop 4age dizzy into the 2tg dizzy at the moment so that should sort triggers, 2tg injectors run a resistor box so need to find some injectors that don’t need that. It looks like the Speeduino is similar to a megasquirt. I’ve been watching tuner studio videos to get my head around that

[yoeddynz]

You'll be fine using the dizzy triggers. So many Japanese cars did just that with no worries. 

Are you going to run full sequential injection? 

[GARDRB]

4 hours ago, yoeddynz said:

You'll be fine using the dizzy triggers. So many Japanese cars did just that with no worries. 

Are you going to run full sequential injection? 

That will depend on what coils we find kicking around I think. We may end up with wasted spark purely based on there being free coils in the shed somewhere. Max comes from the days of importing series 1 RX7s from Japan cut in half and welding them back together again, so there is a bunch of amassed stuff between his various sheds.

[bigfoot]

I have some VR4/Evo coils if you wanted to run them

[GARDRB]

7 minutes ago, bigfoot said:

I have some VR4/Evo coils if you wanted to run them

Those could fit the bill, are they run individually or in a wasted spark config and what are you wanting for them? Maxy is a bit of a hoarder/hotrodder/tight ass so I'm pretty sure he will scrape something out of somewhere, but good to have a backup plan. 

[bigfoot]

They run waste spark with an ignitor

[yoeddynz]

Those speeduinos offered by kiwi efi are a bloody bargain for a built up ecu with a decent plug. 

[GARDRB]

7 hours ago, yoeddynz said:

Those speeduinos offered by kiwi efi are a bloody bargain for a built up ecu with a decent plug. 

Yeah, good plug, good case. I was originally looking at building one, but didn’t think I could build one for the price

[87creepin]

How much are the kiwi efi speeduino units? According to the website they’re on holiday so prices aren’t listed currently. 

[GARDRB]

12 hours ago, 87creepin said:

How much are the kiwi efi speeduino units? According to the website they’re on holiday so prices aren’t listed currently. 

I paid $375 + shipping. It's a pretty impressive unit for the price. Nice high-quality automotive plugs and an alloy case

[kws]

1 hour ago, GARDRB said:

I paid $375 + shipping. It's a pretty impressive unit for the price. Nice high-quality automotive plugs and an alloy case

That's a real sharp price for what you get. Almost not worth buying and making the kit unless you want to do it for fun. 

[GARDRB]

Yeah that was what I was thinking after looking at the different models. My time to assemble it, test it, find out it wasn't working and reassemble it wasn't worth it. That price includes a $40 VR conditioner too, so $335 without.

[87creepin]

You could probably save a hundred dollars making it yourself but set aside 3+ hours depending on skill level

i don’t enjoy soldering so it would probably take me half a day at least

[GARDRB]

This is the case and plug, didn't realise how affordable they were

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005916179052.html

 

[Metalhead96]

Following this as im thinking of going this path with the piazza later on.

Are their basemaps for the 2tg or are you starting from scratch when it comes to the tuning side?

[GARDRB]

8 minutes ago, Metalhead96 said:

Following this as im thinking of going this path with the piazza later on.

Are their basemaps for the 2tg or are you starting from scratch when it comes to the tuning side?

The seller tells me that he's loaded a base map onto the ECU, I wouldn't be surprised if it's 4age based and he's set it up for my sensors. So it's not completely from scratch