BlownCorona Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 So i've just had a couple panels re done as the paint didn't go on thick enough and you could still see the patches of primer, i just got back to see the car and the panels are way lighter my mate used the exact same paint (left over from original), i haven't had a chance to speak to him to see what's up as he's away this weekend, but thought someone on here might no what's going on? it looks terrible and i cannot leave it like this... the actual painting looks great, like a mirror but its like its a different shade completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Other panels have a slight layer of oxidation? Give them a cut n polish and see what happens. I may be wrong here, but I think some paints change shade ever so slightly as they cure too. So maybe you need to wait a few weeks or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 the 'old' new paint does still need its final wet sand and polish, so maybe ill leave it a week or two and do the whole lot at once then see whats up... :/ hope its as simple as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 However if you can still see the primer patches through the paint, that could also be why. Shall be wanting another coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 oh you cant see the primer anymore, that was why it was touched up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yowzer Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Ah right. Yeah leave it for a couple of weeks and see if it comes right. Otherwise, I dunno. Blast the whole car with a fresh topcoat or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 So do both panels have the same number of coats or does one have more now? Could affect it. Though i'll leave it for the in-house paint pros to say either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNAMUCK Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 It's a metalic colour yeah? I'm told that some metalic paints will look different if the panel is painted laying on its flat, rather than hanging vertically. something to do with the way the metal particles lay onto the panel. But I'm not a painter's arsehole. So don't take what I say as gospel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cute wee gem Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 ^ wouldn't make a huge diff I doubt. I've painted plenty of metallics and never noticed the difference between painting on the flat or vertically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cute wee gem Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Only thing I can think of, if it's the same paint is that the metallic has settled to the bottom of the can and hasn't been mixed properly (sticks to the bottom after a while and requires more than a quick stir) Or not enough coats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 both times the car was painted as a whole (to avoide miss matched ironicly) i dont know how many coats went on, the other problem is, bit of pre info, the panels painted were the passengers front gaurd and the passenger front door. the 'join' between the hood and the gaurd looks perfect, but the join between the door and the rear door is utter shit, and i cant notice a change in the shade (though very possible its gradient im sure) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 just been around to see the car in some proper light and bring it home, looks like the paint has gone on with more coats and the true colour has come through (the colour under this paint is a darker blue) so im thinking the only option is to hit the rest of the car with some more coats, does anyone know if the curent lighter panels are gonna show through more paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 surely your "painter" should be able to explain whats up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 yeah im sure he will be able to, hes just been away with the whole long weekend and all, was just trying to get as many different angles as i could since this is the first time ive ever had anything to do with spraying a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS 2 THE DEEE Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Definately sounds like amount of coats differ between the new and old paintwork or the colour isnt spot on. Sometimes even with the right code paint can be mixed up and due to error from the person mixing it or if they havent stirred there tinters properly it can come out different. good painters will tint around a mix that doesnt match and if they cant get it spot on they will at least blend it in to the next panel. if your painter cant suss it i may be able to help, I distributed spies hecker for 3 years and their spectrometer (basically a camera that takes picture of your paint, matches it to a formula in the colour program and then tweaks it to match the sample.....it never let me down even on 3 layer colours. chur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 you see that's what had me confused, it wasn't like the mix was off, we used the exact same paint, as in, there was still half a tin left over from the initial spraying. that's what leads us to believe its the number of coats causing the issues, i did notice it was a pretty transparent paint when we used it first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 - Differant layers of paint will not change colour UNLESS one coat is too thin and you can see primer through it, paint is transparent some more so than others. - How long has the paint been sitting since you originally painted - Does the paint have any pearl in it? If the car is all masked up then it will not be much effort to scotch pad the whole lot and respray. Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 the first respray was about 2 months ago, will this affect the colour in some way? and the paint has a fair amount of pearl in it, but its a factory toyota colour, from a new runx i believe just from looking at the cars. the cars not masked up any more, but im happy to put in the hours to get it right, so that's not really a problem and probably what will happen. does anyone know if the miss matched shades at the moment will show through a few more layers of paint or will i need a significant amount, i really don't want the first problem all over again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegoose Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 saw this thread last night but i was far from capable of operating the keyboard - Differant layers of paint will not change colour UNLESS one coat is too thin and you can see primer through it, paint is transparent some more so than others. from what ive read gaz nailed it just there. you say you could see primer though the previous coats leading me to believe the paint is wees thin and or your painter didnt lay down enough coats, so now you had these repainted the adjacent panel that hasnt been repainted is still letting the old colour show though will need the whole side hitting with another coat... probably ps its not metalux is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownCorona Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 yeah that's the exact conclusion i came to today looking at it in good light, the og colour was a dark blue. the new new colour looks more solid and deeper and just nicer in general, so yeah.. more of the same. will see my mate about tomorrow and sus it out, the real problem now is that the place were we sprayed it is no longer available so ill have to hunt out a spare garage somewhere. pics, finaly original imperfection, a bad photo because i was trying to hide it, but you get the idea. current cause of depression, a little bit exaggerated due to the back being in shade and all, but again you get the idea. the resprayed panels just look nicer as you can see. edit: worth noting that the a pillar hasnt been re sprays and thats how the pearl acts in direct sunlight, which i love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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