zep Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 The time has come for me to downgrade a part on the Gem! Yes, I'm moving from the EA Falcon discs and calipers on the rear to those from an AE101 Levin. The calipers I've got are in need of a good recondition. Has anyone done this before? Anyone got a Hanes they can scan? Just wanna make sure I do it all properly. Cheers Leon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatestben Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Best toyota book I've got is AW11 one, it's probably the same deal though. I'll post some scans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spencer Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 ^ yup will be just like that, whip the slider off inspect and grease, turn the caliper out, clean, replace if rusty, replace seals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 Fek yah, thanks Ben, that's awesome. Is there a special grease I need to get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 Just had a proper loook. What is an SST, and damn, it looks finiky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatestben Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 SST is Special Service Tool. You never need them but I'd imagine it would make some jobs a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 SST is a 'special service tool', or something like that, generally you will be able to find something to do the job in its place (just have to figure out what you are supposed to do) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Don't worry about the SST its a specialist Toyota tool that you don't need. The pistons have a recession in the top you should be able to use a large flat bit of steel etc to twist the caliper out. The second SST is for removing the hand brake mechanism from the back of the caliper, this is probably not necessary as part of your rebuild if its not fucked/leaking The main thing with a caliper freshen up is getting the gunk out of the caliper and making sure there is no pitting on the piston/calliper, then chucking in new seals. Then check and grease the slider and change the little rubber boots and its as good as new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Just chucking it out there - the cost of having a parts shop overhaul them is not much more than the cost of calliper kits.. They are not hard to do but it is super frustrating pulling them apart again when you find you have done something wrong. (and getting the dust seal back in can cause hair pulling of the most extreme kind) Even though I was a mechanic for over a decade its a job I just CBF with - overhauling rear callipers is something I would just farm out to the local brake shop cos they do them all day errryday - the job may you $150 for both sides including kits - where the kit prices could be $40 a side.. I would at least price up the job and compare it to the kit prices and decide from there if the $X difference is worth the pissing around.. (brake shops also have the ability to test the friction of the handbrake mechanism is up to snuff whereas at home this is not possible) I'm ready to be flamed for being lazy and not rekitting my own calipers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 Hrm, I'm sure I paid something like $250 for Pit Stop to do my EA calipers. Will ask around, could be easier to get someone else to do it, yeah... Just trying to keep costs down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKtrips Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Pit Stop? Stuff that, they would be fully amateur at that stuff (AFAIK Pitstop employs what could be best described as journeyman mechanics)- and would most likely farm it out to a specialist brake shop anyway and then just chuck mark-up on it - I would go to a specialist brake shop like Autostop (in Auckland) or ABC (in Wellington) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJZ Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I had a pair of 280ZX calipers done by Precision Brake & Clutch in Takanini, he did a really good job on mine. I can't remember what it cost though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efp0wa Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Use rubber grease too...as far as i recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I got just brakes (in that little street right next to mt smart, kinda opposite where evans european is) to overhaul a rear proportioning valve for me a while back and it was only $80. I had pulled it apart first though but I wouldnt think that would have taken them long. should be not that different. so $150-$200 is possible I would guess. then again I have done a couple of fiat rear calipers myself and it wasn't that bad, seals were only $10-$20 or so but I did have to reuse the boots as they were NLA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 Going to attempt this on the weekend, let's hope I don't fuck it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Grumble Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Def get rubber grease, or else rubber will expand/go all shit house. Is also more fun trying to handle parts when they are lubed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 Cool, thanks for the tip. I'll try pick some up at the local Ripco or PartMaster(bator) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poo Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 i got a piston spinner tool from repco, well i actually got my wife to go get it. you are welcome to borrow it. i was having a nightmare spinning my VW rear pistons, i tried heaps of things, grooved bits of metal, pliers, etc. but the tool was a lifesaver. it fits on the end 3/8th ratchet chur Jono Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep Posted November 14, 2010 Author Share Posted November 14, 2010 Got the first caliper apart. Don't think I'm gonna bother with the handbrake mechanism bit, seems like a pain in the ass, let's hope I don't need to. Anyway, should this rusty rust cause me any concerns? Should I try sand it? Or just clean it and chuck the seals back in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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