xsspeed Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 Wicked, that explains why the boxes have three reservoirs lol. I had hoped to keep the plastic inners to keep the inside of the guards clean-ish but yeah if they are going to be a cunt (and with my wheel/tyre combo I think they will) I'll just pull them out. Going to try and use the king springs that are on the struts I have to start with - from memory it sat an fxgt awfully low which is good, but will be shit if they wallow about. If my memory serves me correct, going low on these induces cases of bump steer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Bump steer is a do it and see what happens kind of thing. Its not that simple to get RCA's on these things, well it is but nothing is off the self. Those inner guards will have to go with pretty much anything but the mildest of lowering, especially with wider tyres. BIN THEM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 Cheers, yeah I have seen what guys like Barry Manon and Grant Te Reto(sp?) have come up with, plus adding/subtracting castor and camber. I won't be bothering going down that road with this car, will do on the blue one though. Might put throw the whiteline rear antiroll bar in this one while I am playing with suspension this weekend - have you had a play with those at all Spencer/I forget how far you got with the fxgt you had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Didn't get far at all it was to sweet as a road car to fuck it, just collected parts. I think roll-bars are something you really need to play with on the track! what feels nicer or "flatter" on the road could be shit on the limits when tested properly. So chucking it in wont hurt but take both to the track and test it out! you will have heaps of spare time at the OS nats trackday. Os trackdays rule for tinkering you have so much time and no pressure of getting out in your "group" sessions. I assume you will be bashing this at the track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 Yeah bowl, mean I'll chuck it in on the loosest setting of the three mount points and work from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Take factory one as well for a comparison, depending on your springs (which sound like a unknown) the whiteline one could fuck you up completely without some more stiffness up front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 yeah no idea what stiffness these kings would be - guess I could try find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 yeah no idea what stiffness these kings would be - guess I could try find out May possibly be able to find out from codes on them if they exist, otherwise Romans cut springs for coilovers thread/google has a calculator for working it out approximately. From what I'm finding, ratio between front and back is as important as finding out the spring rate, if that makes any sense. Beefy sway bars shouldn't cause too much issues, and I'm a fan of the rates being firmer in the rear for turn in/oversteer, but in a light car this could be deadly Fun to play around with anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 If that last trackday was anything to go by I was getting enough overtsteer as it was. I think this was due to liftoff at corner entry, but my noobness knows no better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 So you'll probably want to firm the front up a bit to counter that then. I think if you're already getting sweet lift off oversteer and weight transfer under braking, adding more firmness (beefy sway bar or stiffer springs) to the rear isn't a good idea. I'm just used to heavier FWD's I guess, that naturally understeer a little bit, so chucking a bit of firmness in the rear seems to correct this a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Yea exatcly what brad said, take that stock bar haha incase its a tail happy POS with the whiteline in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 I hear what you are saying, to be fair it was rolling all over the show, the fact that it was closing up ~4-5 inches of rear guard gap to rub the tyres on the guard lips initially proved this, and the rolly polly nature of it was a bit of a pain to drive/still is. I'm not expecting to mirraculously get the right combo, but hopefully whatever I do is an improvement. Will have a play with it in the leadup to trackday (at least this time barring some misfortune I have time on my side) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Chuck those kings in and lop a coil off! instant trackday winning setup, just dont lop off the wrong end if they are progressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 I'll hit up the previous owner of the FX I puuled the suspension out of (Pete/THASHZ on TS) and see what the story was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toucan Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Ha yea like I did, dunno what I was thinking that day, it all made sense in my head. Looking forward to front wheel drive track battles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 Mean, I just have to not stall when/if (who am I kidding: when) I go off track this time, as the starter likes to not work for a while after its been cooked by the exhaust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Looking forward to front wheel drive track battles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorollaGT Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 May have missed if this has been mentioned, but re: RCA's have you seen what Grant Te Rito did with the lower ball joints on his AE82 Steve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 Yep, mentioned above after Spence's post, I spoke to him about it when he was getting them fabbed but haven't seen them on car. My understanding was he'd more or less done the same thing as Bazda. Like I said above, not going to worry about doing that on this GT. I'll go down that route on the other car, and will look at doing similar camber and castor adjustments to Grant to support the "rca's" Edit: I lie, I did see them in his build thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Link to RCA that Grant Te Rito or Bazda did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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