eke_zetec_RWD Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 be a bit later, pumkin soup needs cookn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eke_zetec_RWD Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 http://img532.imageshack.us/flvplayer.swf?f=Mmov00867 vid of running beams engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Choice Those manifolds look so tits in real life too. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 wow they look choice! was impressed with the 1st set those are supper flash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Fuck yes. That's mean, you must be stoked. Jog my memory, motor internals are all stock yeah? or do you have cams in there already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truenotch Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 Stock everything inside... All I've done is look at it and do an oil change. Runs very considering it's been sitting for over 2 years (since before I first bought it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsspeed Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 What do you reckon 'thumb in the air' your transmission losses would be approx? Assuming you have followed those TRD (iirc) headers/exhaust closely what sort of gains do you reckon you have over 'stock' currently/any idea what a factory spec celica SSIII would put out atfw? Just as a comparison. What sort of adj cam gear are you running atm, is it off the previous motor? or just stock but controlled as per previous from the ECU? So...whats next? anything more this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truenotch Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 It's really hard to say what the gains have been from the modifications because I've never seen another redtop beams run in RWD form on the same dyno as my car... When Roman ran this engine in his MR2 it had 127KW in FWD form using the factory ECU and a Toms exhaust manifold IIRC, but the dyno would definitely give a different reading to the rolling road and had less drivetrain loss. The adjustable cam gear on the intake is custom made by Jase (eke_zetec_rwd) and I haven't set it up yet... We just guessed that full advance would be ok . The exhaust gear is off the old motor, as are the dizzy, throttles and all electronics. For this season it will get more tuning to try and find more power but apart from that I just want to drive it and get used to the new power delivery... and hopefully chop a couple of seconds out of my P.B lap time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Mean effort on getting it up and running so quickly! Pretty clever the mods that you've done to make it work with your ECU, I like it. What size are the throttles, are they silvertop 4AGE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truenotch Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 Yeah man it was a huge effort to get it running in time! Wouldn't have been possible without the help of Jase (eke), John (CXG) and a tuner that works too hard (Saturday night tuning ftw). They're silvertop throttles - 43mm ID at the flange face and mine have been machined out at the top to take a ~50mm ram tube. Brendan Duncker was using the same throttles on his Beams with large cams, headwork etc so they should flow enough for me. I'm going to either get a set of very short (25mm long) tubes made up or cut a set of Weber ones we have to get more clearance above the bellmouth and build a divider tray/airbox for a better air supply. Pretty stoked that my AW11 had a TRD panel filter in it when I bought it back, so that's going in there to protect the redtop. ... Got yours sorted yet? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 They're silvertop throttles - 43mm ID at the flange face and mine have been machined out at the top to take a ~50mm ram tube. Brendan Duncker was using the same throttles on his Beams with large cams, headwork etc so they should flow enough for me. Aaahh yep yep... That is still a smaller dia than the factory intake runners though! They're about 45-46mm on the standard manifold. I reckon you should try a standard manifold on the dyno and see if there's much difference... If there is, then you'll know that the reduction in size at that point is restrictive. Pretty stoked that my AW11 had a TRD panel filter in it when I bought it back, so that's going in there to protect the redtop. Is that your AW with the rollcage? ... Got yours sorted yet? . Yes and no... It's finished mechanically, and I could drive it if I wanted to. But I'm resisting the temptation until I've finished the body work and have the car painted. Would rather not get crap all over the primer, and have poor adhesion and paint falling off later on. Have had a pretty shitty run with jobs lately so spending $$$ on cars hasnt really been an option. All good now though with my new job, so as soon as I've got $$$ for paint, it's go time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truenotch Posted June 14, 2010 Author Share Posted June 14, 2010 Nah not the AW with the cage, I bought my old Green/Gold one back as a daily. The throttles thing will be worth a look if I can find an altezza intake manifold to test the theory with, but it still might not fit. The runners are 45mm ID and the flange is matched to the throttles, I think it's pretty good and can't see it being any more restrictive than a factory manifold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Your throttles have less cross sectional area than the ports not a ideal scenario. Glenn has dyno plots of a stock beams making more power everywhere with 48mm throttles compared to blacktop ones, so even they are too small. But hey it goes! plenty of time in the future to change things when your after more beans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 BUGGER! guttering! makes me think i should probably get my injectors that have been sitting for some time overhauled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 BUGGER! guttering! makes me think i should probably get my injectors that have been sitting for some time overhauled. I'v tested a few sets of supposed bung injectors (including these ones just now) and not one had anything wrong with them. It's usually something wrong with airflow, wiring or a knock sensor circuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikuni Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 BUGGER! guttering! makes me think i should probably get my injectors that have been sitting for some time overhauled. I'v tested a few sets of supposed bung injectors (including these ones just now) and not one had anything wrong with them. It's usually something wrong with airflow, wiring or a knock sensor circuit. How do you test them? We took in 12 injectors from 2 1G's that had been sitting for ages to make a good set of 6 and only 4 or so of the 12 were working. I don't think faulty injectors is a myth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 BUGGER! guttering! makes me think i should probably get my injectors that have been sitting for some time overhauled. I'v tested a few sets of supposed bung injectors (including these ones just now) and not one had anything wrong with them. It's usually something wrong with airflow, wiring or a knock sensor circuit. How do you test them? We took in 12 injectors from 2 1G's that had been sitting for ages to make a good set of 6 and only 4 or so of the 12 were working. I don't think faulty injectors is a myth. Yeah injectors will stuff out but when someone hands me a set of newer say R34 skyline injectors that are apparently playing up they are usually not. Older stuff can be gay. But I put them in the tester and if one is a bit down or there is a variance between the flow rates I put them in the ultrasonic cleaner. These ones were perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Aahh stink one! Might sound silly, but there wasnt a throttle imbalance on the far one or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truenotch Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 I don't think so. We balanced the quads on the night of the dyno runs and they are all well matched to the naked eye. Something weird has gone on.... and we're trying to figure out what it was before the next engine goes in.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Russell Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Not enough coolant to the back of the engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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