Networking q for the boffins

[ThePog]

Yea so i have modem router that services the house just fine.

I have a cat5 cable running from this to the shed and at the end of it a netgear modem running in (i think) bridge mode that takes the LAN and makes a second wifi signal for down in the shed.

This is all just fine.

I had a few old hard drives sitting around and decided to make a Nas with them using TrueNAS. It is pretty lol as it is 5 drives wedged in a sff machine and i have hot melt glued a second power supply in there to power the second set of drives. Its rough as fuck but works sweet.

This is also just fine, however it needs a wired connection as TrueNAS does not support wireless comms.

I want to put this setup somewhere out of the way that wont have a lan cable to it.

I think i can set up another router in bridge mode that takes the shed wifi and sends it via a cable to the TrueNAS machine...... Is this the case?

I have a Netgear D6200 that does not appear to have a bridge mode but i can install OpenWRT and get this functionality.

What do you reckon?

[locost_bryan]

I don't know, but I could ask some of the people I work with at Chorus.

[flyingbrick]

You need ten five but fucked if I can find his username with the @ thing

[tortron]

@mark105

[h4nd]

I did exactly that with a $60(?) TP-Link, worked like a charm. Just had to config it exactly like they said, there was some weird non-intuitive setup thing where they broke all the usual setup conventions.

[mark105]

You need a router that can be a wireless client and connect to the shed WIFI and provide network to whats cabled in to it. There is lots of different names for this 

OpenWRT will do this for you and this guide shows you how https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/wifi/relay_configuration

[ThePog]

5 hours ago, mark105 said:

You need a router that can be a wireless client and connect to the shed WIFI and provide network to whats cabled in to it. There is lots of different names for this 

OpenWRT will do this for you and this guide shows you how https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/wifi/relay_configuration

 

Beauty.

Altho both my spare routers dont have OpenWRT images

I will try to find something suitable ta

[datlow]

We have 2x tp link mesh things at home

My boy has connected his ps5 to The one down the other end of the house away from the incoming fibre

Works good, but prob spendy 

[ThePog]

Thats ok. I have found one for $20 that might do it, but if not it has an OpenWRT install available.

Chur

[ThePog]

Here we go again.

I have a Ubiquiti wireless bridge to my cabin and i kindof need some wireless and ethernet there.

I found my old netgear D6200 and let it run through its wizard. It cranked through and actually set everything up all nice like, so now i have 4 ethernet ports and some wireless which is what I wanted.

The only weird thing is that the internet modem has set an ip address for the router/modem in the houses 192.168.0.xx format, but when my lappie connects through the Netgear router it is to a 10.0.0.xx address. There is a setting in there to turn off using the Netgear router to assign address, so does that mean it will 'pass' through the router and use the house modem ti assign an address?

I only ask cos I am expecting I wont be able to access anything in the cabin (apart from the netgear router) from a device in the house because they will all be on a different subnet.

Yea/na/stfu you dumb fuck?

[Bling]

Yeah you'd want to disable the routing on the Netgear and tell it to just be dumb. Every device is probably different but it might allow being setup as an AP. My wireless mesh is run as AP only as it can do routing, but ISP router can do that so seemed less stress to me to only have one router trying to be boss. I guess you could set the ISP router as AP and run the Netgear as the router, but that might be creating more headaches than it solves. Not really ideal since the Netgear relies on wireless to connect to the rest of the network aswell.

[ThePog]

33 minutes ago, Bling said:

Yeah you'd want to disable the routing on the Netgear and tell it to just be dumb. Every device is probably different but it might allow being setup as an AP. My wireless mesh is run as AP only as it can do routing, but ISP router can do that so seemed less stress to me to only have one router trying to be boss. I guess you could set the ISP router as AP and run the Netgear as the router, but that might be creating more headaches than it solves. Not really ideal since the Netgear relies on wireless to connect to the rest of the network aswell.

Ah so the only connection the netgear has is a lan connection through the bridge, then my laptop is wired into that. So the netgear is getting its ip from the isp modem.

But yea I might experiment with turning the Netgear routing function off. It can save its config to a file so should be pretty to revert is it goes wrong ..

Im pretty dumb about this stuff, I should find a local expert and hit them up.

Oh and the netgear has options to change the setup, but only for router+modem and modem only.

Not what I need which is router only, but its working like that regardless.

[Bling]

A little confused as to how this layout actually is, bridges here, wired there. If the ISP box is already providing all devices with IP addresses, i'd let it do that job. Just try and get the Netgear to be dumb and just use it for it's connectivity. Turning it into basically a WAP with switch for wired devices. My understanding, which is the same as yours is that the Netgear will pretty much have it's own private network that devices on it are unaware of the rest of the network. See what options you have with the Netgear anyway and go from there. My home setup is quite different, I have ISP router handling the IP's and have the wireless on that turned off. Then I have a mesh wifi thing connected to my network which runs the wireless, with one more mesh device plugged in elsewhere to boost wifi. Do each device just does the one job and it seems to run great.

[ThePog]

1 hour ago, Bling said:

A little confused as to how this layout actually is, bridges here, wired there. If the ISP box is already providing all devices with IP addresses, i'd let it do that job. Just try and get the Netgear to be dumb and just use it for it's connectivity. Turning it into basically a WAP with switch for wired devices. My understanding, which is the same as yours is that the Netgear will pretty much have it's own private network that devices on it are unaware of the rest of the network. See what options you have with the Netgear anyway and go from there. My home setup is quite different, I have ISP router handling the IP's and have the wireless on that turned off. Then I have a mesh wifi thing connected to my network which runs the wireless, with one more mesh device plugged in elsewhere to boost wifi. Do each device just does the one job and it seems to run great.

It is probably more complicated than it needs to be, but still.

I have a 4g modem that handles the ip assignments plus has wireless for the house, obviously.

Then i have a cabin that has a wireless bridge connected to the 4g modem feeding it internet cos its annoying to run a cable. So i plug my lappy into the single ethernet port coming off that, ip gets assigned in the normal range. Job done.

But I have bought an internet connected device that will be in the cabin too. There is a very weak wireless signal from the house and only one ethernet port.

Initially I grabbed a wireless extender I had that can also be switched to use a cable and generate a hotspot. But then there would not be enough ports to plug the laptop in as well.

Hence i realised that rather than buy a little network switch i had a couple of old modems that might do it, and yes it kindof does it.

However I has a bit of a play this morning and I am too dumb to work out what I need to do about the new ip assignments from the router.

I got it to stop assigning ip's but then nothing will connect to the wireless.

I tried to tell it to use the 4g modem to assign ips but something in the setup is preventing it, saying its the wrong subnet or ip range or some such.

I should probably screenshot the relevant setup pages.

I did google but its an older unit and the question is pretty specific for new shit google to answer.

[Bling]

If you can get it to work sweet. If not, 10/100Mb 4/5 port switches are sub $20+post, probably cheaper 2nd hand. Something like that should do the trick and is dumb so will just do as it's told.

[ThePog]

7 minutes ago, Bling said:

If you can get it to work sweet. If not, 10/100Mb 4/5 port switches are sub $20+post, probably cheaper 2nd hand. Something like that should do the trick and is dumb so will just do as it's told.

Yea I am heading that way tbh, that router has ideas above its station.