Llama Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 In what is becoming a common occurrence, I took my car apart and got stuck! Currently I need to remove the dif pinion flange to get to the oil seal, however I'm having trouble moving the actual nut, so does anyone have a rattle gun I could pinch for a bit? Preferably electric since I don't have proper air compressor. Or if you think you're strong enough come have a crack. (can people see this?) Plate is bolted on to hold the flange from rotating, as the handbrake isn't up to the task. There isn't any more room for a longer cheater bar, sprayed with penetr8, and me and dad pulling on opposites wasn't enough to budge it. I am really against putting the stupid thing back together and driving to a shop just for one nut... Last option is to brace the plate against the wall with some timber, and drive a wedge between the two, but I think that's a bit extreme... Can pay in beer/panna cotta/cookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Get a strong-arm bar on it and then slide underneath the car and use your feet/legs. Just make sure that the car is stable and not teetering on any stands etc. Must be very solid, yo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldturkey Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 There's always a way. Previous methods of mine have included using a jack on a power bar, using a ratchet tie down on a perpendicular anchor point. Have you tried using heat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomaxgo Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Get a strong-arm bar on it and then slide underneath the car and use your feet/legs. Just make sure that the car is stable and not teetering on any stands etc. Must be very solid, yo. i 2nd this, when all else fails, kick the shit out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldturkey Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Also using a fast impact force can do the business, get a good swing at the end of the bar with a big hammer. Might just be enough to shock the threads loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP450andLE Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I have arms that can assist with some forceful tugging if need be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 As above. Ratchets are not designed for "breaking" tight bolts and a pipe on a ratchet will toast it pretty quick. Thats the job of a power bar. Get a drift (mild steel bar) and a hammer. Give the head of the bolt a good blow with the drift and hammer then have another go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyteler Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 ...I'm just going to replay this one, because I had a good wee chuckle at it. I have arms that can assist with some forceful tugging if need be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtdvl Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Breaker/power bar with the end on a trolly jack has worked for some very very stuck bolts before, lifted a car 30-40mm off the axle stands before it slowly loosened and lowered itself nicely back on the axle stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted September 11, 2012 Author Share Posted September 11, 2012 There's always a way. Previous methods of mine have included using a jack on a power bar, using a ratchet tie down on a perpendicular anchor point. Have you tried using heat? Jack on power bar sounds good, will give that a try. Does heat work on just tight stuff? I thought it was just for seized things (this has been leaking oil like a good british car, so I don't think it's seized). Will give it a crack tomorrow with a jack on a bar. Quite tight though and can't brace it against the battery boxes though. oh SP you. Chur all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP450andLE Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 oh SP you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Star Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Hammer and or jack normally does the trick... start with hammer... size large Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiemk Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 position your plate and ratchet/strong bar apart from each other so you can fit a long pipe/wood/something between and pry in gap in between them to pry ratchet anti clockwise undoing your nut. much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgweiser Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 please don't put a hammer anywhere near it. Good way to fuck everything surrounding the nut including yourself. Use strong arm bar as stated, use a jack handle if you need more leverage. Get heaps of height and make sure it's secure as stated, it will come off. If it is really stuck which I doubt, put strong arm bar horizontal to floor in direction of rotation, drop onto ground and get someone to help you push it backwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 please don't put a hammer anywhere near it. Good way to fuck everything surrounding the nut including yourself. totally agree with this one , amount of times ive done some pretty good damage to my wrists / thumb/ hip / kneecaps because the hammer missed the mark is amazing . i was recommend something similar to what requim did as long as there is a gap of about 3 inches between the power bar and that flat plate that hold the flage itll wind off piece of piss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testament Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 As above. Ratchets are not designed for "breaking" tight bolts and a pipe on a ratchet will toast it pretty quick. Thats the job of a power bar. Get a drift (mild steel bar) and a hammer. Give the head of the bolt a good blow with the drift and hammer then have another go. This! DO NOT use a ratchet for something like that shit can fail (that doesn't look like a particularly solid one to start with) and hand goes super hard into something/you go flying/bit explode/danger will robinson The other one would be to get a hold of a 3/4 drive socket and power bar - with really tight stuff like this a 1/2 power bar with a cheater will bend/have spring in it and take away a significant amoutn of your power/impact or even break completely/shear off (have done this before). As 3/4 wont be bending and will give you a much better chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 Feeling a bit lingling spec since I had a breaker bar sitting there all along and I just didn't know what it was... but I have success! Plate double braced against the wall with timber and a jack on the breaker bar. Car got about 5cm off the stands and then I almost shat myself when it broke, it was LOUD Thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 too late but this was my method, just had to tap the end of the bar at the socket end for it to release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldturkey Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 using a ratchet tie down on a perpendicular anchor point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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